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Y'all think a lot the LSU players are undisciplined.......
Posted on 11/29/08 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 11/29/08 at 12:26 pm
both on & off the field?
Posted on 11/29/08 at 12:27 pm to Skillet
on: yes.
off: not any more or less than the average team
off: not any more or less than the average team
Posted on 11/29/08 at 12:29 pm to Elleshoe
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off: not any more or less than the average team
i guess when the season is going bad, people tend to maybe magnify players personal lives.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 12:38 pm to Skillet
There have not been too many off-field incidents, but on field there is a developing problem with discipline.
We are returning more and more to the "look at me" mentality that was rampant before Saban took over. He squashed all of that garbage that players typically do after they make a play.
IMHO, Miles must crack down on the players, not allowing any more of that personal celebration stuff that draws attention to one's self. I think the "act like you have made a play before" mentality is much better for creating team chemistry. I also hope that Miles and his assistants will encourage players to quit trying to make "Sportscenter" plays and simply make solid tackles. The lack of discipline after plays seems to have led to a lack of discipline with respect to fundamentals.
We are returning more and more to the "look at me" mentality that was rampant before Saban took over. He squashed all of that garbage that players typically do after they make a play.
IMHO, Miles must crack down on the players, not allowing any more of that personal celebration stuff that draws attention to one's self. I think the "act like you have made a play before" mentality is much better for creating team chemistry. I also hope that Miles and his assistants will encourage players to quit trying to make "Sportscenter" plays and simply make solid tackles. The lack of discipline after plays seems to have led to a lack of discipline with respect to fundamentals.
This post was edited on 11/29/08 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 11/29/08 at 12:39 pm to windmill
On the field: yes. If Rahim Alem playing kickball yesterday is any indication, then definitely.
Off the field: Probably not that bad, probably not anything that comes close to what RP did in his tenure here.
Off the field: Probably not that bad, probably not anything that comes close to what RP did in his tenure here.
This post was edited on 11/29/08 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/29/08 at 12:41 pm to Housplants
<There have not been too many off-field incidents, but on field there is a developing problem with discipline.
We are returning more and more to the "look at me" mentality that was rampant before Saban took over. He squashed all of that garbage that players typically do after they make a play. >
That is right on the mark. And that's what I am calling thuggary.
We are returning more and more to the "look at me" mentality that was rampant before Saban took over. He squashed all of that garbage that players typically do after they make a play. >
That is right on the mark. And that's what I am calling thuggary.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 1:24 pm to Almazach
I don't necessarily agree that there is a big dicipline problem on the field, but I think Alem and Johnson are just getting sick and tired of losing and they are frustrated. These two guys are two of the bightest Defensive players LSU has this year.
All of these guys are winners and they are not used to losing so they are having a hard time dealing with it.
Don't get me wrong though, their conduct cost the team big time and that type play must not be tollerated. Les was not tough enough in my mind, as he just put his arm around Johnson and talked to him, when Nick Saban would have been livid and in his face all the way to the bench. You have to make an example out of that stuff and just do not allow it.
All of these guys are winners and they are not used to losing so they are having a hard time dealing with it.
Don't get me wrong though, their conduct cost the team big time and that type play must not be tollerated. Les was not tough enough in my mind, as he just put his arm around Johnson and talked to him, when Nick Saban would have been livid and in his face all the way to the bench. You have to make an example out of that stuff and just do not allow it.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 1:57 pm to MontanaTiger
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That is right on the mark. And that's what I am calling thuggary.
As usual today, you're anything but right on the mark. In your ignorance, you're about as far off the mark as it gets and far too anxious to put your abject, silly ignorance on display for us to peruse.
You are ignorant of what it truly means to refer to a student athlete as a "thug" simply because you're disappointed in LSU's FB season.
But you anonymous keyboard warriors are all the same, but not a one of you would man up face to face with LSU FB team and lay the stinking pile you post in person.
Get a life and
Posted on 11/29/08 at 1:59 pm to Bullneck
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t I think Alem and Johnson are just getting sick and tired of losing and they are frustrated
so you kick the ball after a 3rd down stop
Posted on 11/29/08 at 2:09 pm to Bullneck
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Don't get me wrong though, their conduct cost the team big time and that type play must not be tollerated.
No one is probably hurting more over a boneheaded moment today than that young man. He learned a lesson I doubt he'll soon forget in the most humiliating, tough way possible as it was likely that single penalty on 4th & 29 the game turned on.
Hopefully, an ongoing point with him and his teammates evidencing just how a game can turn on a single stupid reaction, no matter how seemingly "justified" at the moment it may have seemed to the young man, has and will continue to be made on the field in both the bowl game and 2009.
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...Les was not tough enough in my mind, as he just put his arm around Johnson and talked to him,
He may (or not, I'm speculating of course) have reacted to Johnson that way because his coaches up top looked at the replay and reported Johnson had reacted to having been deliberately poked in the eye by the Arky player. As is universally the case in FB at every level, it's always the second guy reacting to the dirty tactics of the first guy who gets his team flagged.
Granted, it was a boneheaded, stupendously costly reaction that cost his team big-time. Frustrating as it was for all of us and his teammates, I should think it's not a bad decision Johnson is likely to ever forget, given the immediate and subsequent consequence on the field.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 2:14 pm to Skillet
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