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re: In case you missed it (like I did), archaeologists discovered ancient city of Sodom
Posted on 9/10/23 at 12:37 pm to Zarkinletch416
Posted on 9/10/23 at 12:37 pm to Zarkinletch416
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Let me get this straight. Do you, by some miracle, profess to have the gift of reading minds, including the intentions of Lot's son-in-laws who lived millenia ago.
It’s common sense. If your father in law offers your wife up to strangers to be gang raped, you won’t very much like nor trust your father in law. And you damn sure won’t think he is just and righteous, but rather evil.
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Always keeping in mind that God wants our conversion, our turning away from sin
What “God” wants (talking about Yahweh here) is for you to adore and glorify him and suck his arse for all eternity so that the other gods in heaven will know how badass he is.
Isaiah 43:7
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everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.”
Ephesians 3:10
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so that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places.
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God of Abraham is all-knowing
Nope. For example, he created an evil race of giants called the Nephilim (genesis 6) which corrupted mankind. God experienced regret that he had made man and killed then all except one family. Then he experienced regret once more and vowed never to kill all mankind in a flood ever again.
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God of Abraham is all-powerful
Have you ever read the story of how God was defeated by the Canaanites, specifically because they had iron chariots (presumably the Israelites were still in Bronze Age)? Did you miss the story of Yahweh and his prophet Elijah traveled with the armies of Israel, Judah, and Edom with a promise/prophecy of defeating the Moabites? It’s the one where king Mesha of Moab sacrificed his firstborn son on the city wall to his god Chemosh, and divine wrath from heaven (Chemosh) smote the shite out of the Israelite coalition? See Judges 1, 2Kings 3 respectively.
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God of Abraham is merciful, and compassionate
Is that like the times he ordered the genocide of Canaanites and killed the Egyptian firstborns, and consumed the Midianite virgin girls (Numbers 31), and ordered the destruction of every man woman child infant and sheep and donkey so many times? Was he merciful on those innocent babies?
I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 1:36 pm to Squirrelmeister
That the Bible appears to be contradictory is true. Across millenia there are seemingly confusing accounts of odd rules of behavior. What can be more confusing than Sarah lending her maid servant (Hagar) to her husband Abraham for the purpose of producing a male heir. A male heir she herself could not provide. Is that technically adultery? Then Sarah, in a jealousy induced rage, demands Abraham expell Hagar and her child (Ishmael) in the desert? Dang, imagine Abraham trying to separate two women right in the middle of a cat fight!
End of story, right? So what does God do? He's goes looking for Hagar and her baby in the desert, and saves them. Researching the customs, norms, and structure of the time, we learn that culturally, and from a hierarchical perspective a male heir was very important. But it's still confusing. Like did Hagar allow Sarah to change Ishmael's diaper occassionally? God writes straight with crooked lines. He's God, He can do that.
So we're left to scratch our heads reflecting on God's seemingly contradictory action. But when you reflect on the Words of God as pronounced through the mouth of his Son Jesus Christ it all makes sense, does it? God loves - that's it. He loves Muslims, Christians, Jews, heretics, schismatics, children of single Moms, fatherless children, everyone. He loved us enough to give us clear laws governing rules of behavior. I mean it makes sense that the God who created us, would understand what makes us supremely happy, right? The point of my argument here. God's laws are not designed to burden us, constrain us, or limit us, but to free us. And get this He wrote His laws with His own hand on the side of a mountain on two tablets of stone. Tablets of Stone the Hebrews carried around in a gold box in the desert for forty years. But I digress.
Search through the pages of Biblical history (yes, the Bible is a historical book), or look through the ruins of Sodom & Gomorrah (I presume that's still going on) to ascertain the penalty for willful neglect and outright rejection of his laws and you will learn we worship a God of Mercy, and Justice. Actions have consequences, and really bad actions have catastrophic consequences. A word of caution to those who attempt to paint God as an indulgent Father who sets no boundries.
God (Jesus) died for all mankind. His death on the Cross came about because of the betrayal of a few in the Sanhedrin and the betrayal of one Apostle. That He died for all men (Jew and Gentile) was the cause of considerable friction between the Apostle Peter and Saul of Tarsus (Paul) in the early Church.
I mean why didn't God just make legions of Angels appear in that Garden when they came to arrest Him? When the Temple Guards appeared in the dark to arrest Jesus they said,"We seek Jesus of Nazareth". Jesus answered,"I AM". In that Jesus answered with that he repeated the answer Yahweh gave Moses when he asked God,"Who shall I tell them sent me?" God answers,"I AM THAT I AM send you". He didn't tell Moses - wait up, let'me grab my smartphone and I'll accompany you down this mountain, eh?
God is Mercy. God is Compassion. God is Love. God is Justice.
End of story, right? So what does God do? He's goes looking for Hagar and her baby in the desert, and saves them. Researching the customs, norms, and structure of the time, we learn that culturally, and from a hierarchical perspective a male heir was very important. But it's still confusing. Like did Hagar allow Sarah to change Ishmael's diaper occassionally? God writes straight with crooked lines. He's God, He can do that.
So we're left to scratch our heads reflecting on God's seemingly contradictory action. But when you reflect on the Words of God as pronounced through the mouth of his Son Jesus Christ it all makes sense, does it? God loves - that's it. He loves Muslims, Christians, Jews, heretics, schismatics, children of single Moms, fatherless children, everyone. He loved us enough to give us clear laws governing rules of behavior. I mean it makes sense that the God who created us, would understand what makes us supremely happy, right? The point of my argument here. God's laws are not designed to burden us, constrain us, or limit us, but to free us. And get this He wrote His laws with His own hand on the side of a mountain on two tablets of stone. Tablets of Stone the Hebrews carried around in a gold box in the desert for forty years. But I digress.
Search through the pages of Biblical history (yes, the Bible is a historical book), or look through the ruins of Sodom & Gomorrah (I presume that's still going on) to ascertain the penalty for willful neglect and outright rejection of his laws and you will learn we worship a God of Mercy, and Justice. Actions have consequences, and really bad actions have catastrophic consequences. A word of caution to those who attempt to paint God as an indulgent Father who sets no boundries.
God (Jesus) died for all mankind. His death on the Cross came about because of the betrayal of a few in the Sanhedrin and the betrayal of one Apostle. That He died for all men (Jew and Gentile) was the cause of considerable friction between the Apostle Peter and Saul of Tarsus (Paul) in the early Church.
I mean why didn't God just make legions of Angels appear in that Garden when they came to arrest Him? When the Temple Guards appeared in the dark to arrest Jesus they said,"We seek Jesus of Nazareth". Jesus answered,"I AM". In that Jesus answered with that he repeated the answer Yahweh gave Moses when he asked God,"Who shall I tell them sent me?" God answers,"I AM THAT I AM send you". He didn't tell Moses - wait up, let'me grab my smartphone and I'll accompany you down this mountain, eh?
God is Mercy. God is Compassion. God is Love. God is Justice.
This post was edited on 9/10/23 at 9:37 pm
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