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CDC & FDA Ignored U.S. Military Investigation Revealing Vaccine Failures
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:06 am
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:06 am
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Non-profit organization ICAN (Informed Consent Action Network) has obtained new documents through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). These documents shed light on the disregard by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) towards a U.S. military investigation that reportedly indicated vaccine failures as early as January 2021.
The FOIA documents, made public by ICAN, suggest that the CDC and FDA may have overlooked crucial information regarding the efficacy of vaccines. According to ICAN’s findings, a U.S. military investigation conducted in January 2021 apparently revealed signs of vaccine failures. However, the CDC and FDA allegedly failed to acknowledge or address these concerns adequately.
“Through FOIA requests, ICAN’s attorneys have obtained a September 2021 presentation delivered to FDA and NIH higher-ups, including Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, Peter Marks, and Janet Woodcock, which indicated shocking levels of waning immunity and breakthrough infection among the vaccinated as early as July 2021,” according to the press release.
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Despite having this data on hand—certainly by the date of the September 13, 2021 presentation, (but likely earlier, as a September 15,2021 email states that the data had been “brought to the CDC three weeks ago”) — public health officials, like Fauci, continued to double-down on the message that vaccines were the key to getting “control of the virus.”
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But the CDC didn’t let the evidence get in the way of its messaging. As late as December 2021, the CDC kept up the outrageous façade that the vaccines offered “similar protection in real-world conditions as they have in clinical trial settings, reducing the risk of COVID-19, including severe illness by 90 percent or more among people who are fully vaccinated.”
CDC apparently went as far as keeping the data from FDA, evidenced by the Director of CBER, Peter Marks’, comment to Janet Woodcock, Acting Commissioner of FDA, that, it “might have been nice for CDC to share the data.”
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Posted on 9/4/23 at 8:04 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Despite having this data on hand—certainly by the date of the September 13, 2021 presentation, (but likely earlier, as a September 15,2021 email states that the data had been “brought to the CDC three weeks ago”) — public health officials, like Fauci, continued to double-down on the message that vaccines were the key to getting “control of the virus.”
Stupid, right wing, conspiracy theorists are proven right, yet again.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 8:17 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
We all know the usual non leftie objections to the clot shot.
The military is not full of accountants. They're pilots (ships, planes, choppers, and armor), navigators, commo specialists, peeps that work on carrier decks, have to load tons of shite and stabilize it on a transport, check static lines, etc. There is NO ROOM to experiment.
The military is not full of accountants. They're pilots (ships, planes, choppers, and armor), navigators, commo specialists, peeps that work on carrier decks, have to load tons of shite and stabilize it on a transport, check static lines, etc. There is NO ROOM to experiment.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 8:25 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
And they wanted to fire every public sector worker that refused
Posted on 9/4/23 at 8:29 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
What I've learned from many interactions is that people are wired to ignore things that are not useful to their objectives. If your objective is for the other side to be wrong, inferior, or possibly something more nefarious you are going to ignore or attack anything that goes against that objective.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 8:33 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Despite having this data on hand—certainly by the date of the September 13, 2021 presentation, (but likely earlier, as a September 15,2021 email states that the data had been “brought to the CDC three weeks ago”) — public health officials, like Fauci, continued to double-down on the message that vaccines were the key to getting “control of the virus.”
Stupid, right wing, conspiracy theorists are proven right, yet again.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 8:34 pm to tigerfan 64
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Stupid, right wing, conspiracy theorists are proven right, yet again.
If that's the only thing you post until I die, I may consider myself a fan, sir.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 8:53 pm to LemmyLives
Thanks.
I have seen the devastating effects covid had on a coworker with many comorbidities. He nearly died.
2 of my bosses had covid multiple times. Both are vaxed and boosted.
I did not take the mrna shot. I did not see the value to it. The potential side effects seemed greater than benefits.
My employer strongly supported the vaccine.
We ended up with weekly testing.
There were covid outbreaks all around me at work.
I caught it Oct 2022. 32 months natural survival.
I had 3 days of severe headache, minor upper respiratory inflammation, 2 days fever.
ETA:
I just left my 14 yo sons Dr visit.
Sore throat, fatigue, fever/chills for 2 days, sinus infection,cough.
ZERO TESTS OFFERED (COVID or flu), covid not uttered one time.
He was Prescribed antibiotics, ear drops and sinus spray.
It's like the covid usefulness is gone.
Poof.
Everything back to normal.
For 2 years, they wanted to administer a covid test just to let you in the clinic.
I have seen the devastating effects covid had on a coworker with many comorbidities. He nearly died.
2 of my bosses had covid multiple times. Both are vaxed and boosted.
I did not take the mrna shot. I did not see the value to it. The potential side effects seemed greater than benefits.
My employer strongly supported the vaccine.
We ended up with weekly testing.
There were covid outbreaks all around me at work.
I caught it Oct 2022. 32 months natural survival.
I had 3 days of severe headache, minor upper respiratory inflammation, 2 days fever.
ETA:
I just left my 14 yo sons Dr visit.
Sore throat, fatigue, fever/chills for 2 days, sinus infection,cough.
ZERO TESTS OFFERED (COVID or flu), covid not uttered one time.
He was Prescribed antibiotics, ear drops and sinus spray.
It's like the covid usefulness is gone.
Poof.
Everything back to normal.
For 2 years, they wanted to administer a covid test just to let you in the clinic.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 9/4/23 at 9:04 pm to tigerfan 64
If you have to change the definition of a word (vaccine), I immediately have questions. When you don't answer those questions, or blow me off, I know you're full of shite.
My doctor, who treated me for DVT and PE, refused to give me an exemption for work to avoid the shot, because the CDC didn't recognize clots as an appropriate side side effect that justified an exemption. WTF? She was of course associated with a major Houston hospital chain, so congrats on making me not want to renew high blood pressure meds because I don't want to waste my time with someone that only reads system guidelines, instead of being my doctor.
My doctor, who treated me for DVT and PE, refused to give me an exemption for work to avoid the shot, because the CDC didn't recognize clots as an appropriate side side effect that justified an exemption. WTF? She was of course associated with a major Houston hospital chain, so congrats on making me not want to renew high blood pressure meds because I don't want to waste my time with someone that only reads system guidelines, instead of being my doctor.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 9:19 pm to LemmyLives
And the military continued to mandate the vax.
I know a guy that spent a year in Afghanistan and a tour in Iraq,refused the vax and was booted out.Were quite a few that happened to,I have read.
I come from 4 generations of veterans including myself.
I’ll be a SOB if any of my grandsons join if I have anything to do with it.
I know a guy that spent a year in Afghanistan and a tour in Iraq,refused the vax and was booted out.Were quite a few that happened to,I have read.
I come from 4 generations of veterans including myself.
I’ll be a SOB if any of my grandsons join if I have anything to do with it.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 9:40 pm to LSUA 75
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And the military continued to mandate the vax
A bunch of SEALs were booted for the same reason. Not like you take the best of the best, and then tell them they're so subject to a respiratory virus that may infect others (unlike 12.7mm rounds passing through your aircraft) could have an impact on military availability.
If it gives you any consolation, remember that a enlisted can see through all that shite, and band together to roll their eyes. I will suggest USCG for my kids, the USMC is farked. The USN can't stop running their ships into shite, which is kind of rule 1. At least the USCG gets action essentially all the time.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 9:47 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
So the military and Humetrix just told the CDC and the FDA. Nobody else.
And they were still forcing service members to take the shite after this investigation..?
Wasn't it the military that developed the vax.. for or in cooperation with pharma?
Sounds like they weren't making recommendations on whether or not to continue the push or the talking points.
Sounds like they were reporting on the progress of their experiment.
I'm really not seeing a win here. I'm just seeing confirmation of how fricked we are.
And they were still forcing service members to take the shite after this investigation..?
Wasn't it the military that developed the vax.. for or in cooperation with pharma?
Sounds like they weren't making recommendations on whether or not to continue the push or the talking points.
Sounds like they were reporting on the progress of their experiment.
I'm really not seeing a win here. I'm just seeing confirmation of how fricked we are.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:01 pm to Von
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And they were still forcing service members to take the shite after this investigation..?
Wasn't it the military that developed the vax.. for or in cooperation with pharma?
They need to make sure you know they can control you. When you see a lone dude at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier wearing a mask 30 feet from the nearest other person, you assume it's a good thing.
The military wasn't involved in development. There was a much touted story re: an aircraft carrier that needed to offload a handful of sailors due to positive tests in the Pacific, but that was kind of it. Get the jab, wear the mask, or get out.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:05 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
The strangest thing about the moving of the goal posts isn't that they moved the goal posts because that's what they do.
The strangest thing to me is that they went from "if you take the vaccine you will stop the spread" to "we never said that"
and then on top of that there's still posters and propaganda at hospitals that say to take the vaccine to stop the spread.
Truly bizarre how disconnected we are from each other.
The strangest thing to me is that they went from "if you take the vaccine you will stop the spread" to "we never said that"
and then on top of that there's still posters and propaganda at hospitals that say to take the vaccine to stop the spread.
Truly bizarre how disconnected we are from each other.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:09 pm to LemmyLives
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only reads system guidelines
If doctors are gonna do that, why not just replace with IBM Watson?
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:12 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Not surprising given the fact that union boss Randi Weingarten wrote the CDC’s COVID policy guidelines.
The CDC was a voice of scientific guidance and authority. The public will not take anything the CDC says seriously anymore because of its actions. And the CDC earned that dismissal as a reliable and trusted authority of science.
The CDC has absolutely and completely destroyed its reputation forever.
The CDC was a voice of scientific guidance and authority. The public will not take anything the CDC says seriously anymore because of its actions. And the CDC earned that dismissal as a reliable and trusted authority of science.
The CDC has absolutely and completely destroyed its reputation forever.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:24 pm to Privateer 2007
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IBM Watson?
Oh no. You too?
Posted on 9/4/23 at 11:50 pm to LemmyLives
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The military wasn't involved in development.
I don't know man..
I read something a while back about the military being directly involved with the covid jabs, but that story faded pretty quick, could be bs.
But remember Malone saying the work he was doing was intended for specops use.
I looked for more on the Malone angle and found this bit at Intel Drop.
commissioned-by-the-pentagon-mrna-vaccine-development-as-part-of-biological-warfare/
It's a fun read... Shitload of DARPA and BARDA funds went into the technology since 2012. They funded it, they'll consider it theirs. That's why they hired Humetrix, to study the data and see how their technology they paid for was working.. during the pandemic that was required to test it.
After reading the article in the OP, this paragraph screamed at me...
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in retrospect, it can be stated that as early as 2012 and 2013, the Pentagon possessed the basic concepts of the technologies now implemented in the mRNA vaccines and commissioned pharmaceutical companies to develop them further. Under conditions of biological warfare, short-term immune responses to various pathogens emerging in rapid succession are more important than long-term immunization by traditional killed vaccines. And these are precisely the characteristics of the current mRNA vaccines against the COVID variants
ftw
China doesn't just have a dossier on Biden.
They have a dossier on the entire US government. A big fat covid shaped dossier.
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