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re: New baby on the way - Whooping Cough vaccine

Posted on 8/31/23 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27487 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 5:07 pm to
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6/23/2022

Your request has been fulfilled. Now please admit that you are an idiot and begin eating your crow.


Unfortunately for you, you picked a guy whose original academic focus was research methodology and experimental design to argue with.

The first thing to look for is bias (in this case, funding).

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Funding

Schmidt Science Fellowship in partnership with the Rhodes Trust; WHO; UK Medical Research Council; Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance; Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation; National Institute for Health Research; and Community Jameel.




Do any of those funding sources have a vested interest in a certain result?

The second item to look for in their summary of methodology is normative factors.

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Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4 million [95% Crl 6·8–7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low-income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42–49) of deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111% (105–118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021.


This is pathetic.

You don't make estimations of your data to support conclusions.

Data are absolute.

Data are to be measured without expectation.

Data are not to be manipulated/confined to certain data sets to support certain conclusions.

In short, your chosen published work has failed the most basic scientific standard.



My previous post was bait; you were simply foolish enough to take it.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 5:08 pm to
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Unfortunately for you, you picked a guy whose original academic focus was research methodology and experimental design to argue with.



Academics should never argue with real doctors.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24633 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 5:09 pm to
Polio is gonna make a come back because of Qanon people isn’t it
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 5:12 pm to
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Do any of those funding sources have a vested interest in a certain result?



Obviously your academic focus wasn't argumentation. You need to make a specific point about the vested interest and actually offer evidence for the point. You can't simply says 'hey look at the funders of this research' and then not finish the argument. You are off to an extremely poor start here as well.

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In short, your chosen published work has failed the most basic scientific standard.



What? You haven't done any analysis of the estimates at all. The basis of your critique basically involves 'I'm an expert but I'm going to offer no arguments.' So far, you've offered nothing.
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