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Flippers out there - where are you seeing deals?

Posted on 8/20/23 at 11:48 am
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 11:48 am
Is it getting any easier in your market trying to find flips that work? I’m in NOVA/DC and it’s super tough here.

Brrr clearly doesn’t work anymore with higher rates (some exceptions of course). Just curious to see what anybody playing in this field is seeing.
Posted by down time
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Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 11:52 am to
Who is going to be exit liquidity when they can rent for 33% less and get zero risk 5% return on their deposit?
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 12:26 pm to
Not following you, but go ahead
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11518 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:36 pm to
He is saying bonds are paying 5%. No reason to deal with rentals at this point in time.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:39 pm to
Correct. Not talking about rentals. In fact I said brrr doesn’t work right now.

I’m talking about pure flips.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4989 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 4:20 pm to
Flips- have to find an off market is some sort of distress. It's so hard right now.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9642 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 4:22 pm to
Give it 2 quarters ….. you’ll see plenty of distressed flippable properties enter inventory…… commercial properties are what I’m watching for.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4989 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 4:30 pm to
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commercial properties are what I’m watching for.




That's smart.

It won't happen on residential. Too many locked in at amazing rates.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Too many locked in at amazing rates.


Meh maybe. Too many rushed out and bought a bunch of crap and ran up credit card bills instead of saving the difference between the old payment and the new one. Still going to be some distress.

I’ll never see it in my market here. Hoping to partner up with some folks in a little more normal market
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
19086 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 7:58 pm to
quote:


Flippers
quote:

I’m in NOVA/DC and it’s super tough here.

Good
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/20/23 at 8:58 pm to
Great post. Would read again.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38026 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 4:42 pm to
Has anyone here every formed an investment group?
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89305 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 5:21 pm to
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Has anyone here every formed an investment group?




you can do a real estate syndication.

or you can form/create your own private equity fund.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Has anyone here every formed an investment group?


Yes. I’ve set one up. They’ll come in on the equity side if needed but we’ll also lend private money for short term as well.

Be careful using the word “fund” though as you can start stepping on some SEC land mines.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38026 posts
Posted on 8/21/23 at 10:32 pm to
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Have posters on this board formed one together?
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:12 pm to
I have spoken to numerous people on here around individual transactions and have offered putting some equity together for folks short on down payments etc etc. Have done a few deals for people on here through debt deals but not sure there’s a spot here for a true fund per se.

Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3217 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:44 pm to
There aren't any deals around here (upstate of SC) and there aren't likely to be any in the next couple of decades. Too many yanks migrating from their shite hole big cities F'n up home values.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Too many yanks migrating from their shite hole big cities F'n up home values.


Lol Floridians say they’ll be happy to trade places with you guys!!!
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38026 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 5:24 pm to
Im.behind because i tried with friends and family. No money was lost but the ceiling was low since they were difficult to work with
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:16 pm to
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Im.behind because i tried with friends and family. No money was lost but the ceiling was low since they were difficult to work with


Yeah fine line there. You want them asking good questions and doing whatever due diligence they need to do, but in the end they are supposed to be passive investors.

I’ve also found that everyone’s in when you talking about this shite around the fireplace sipping on high noons but when it comes time for writing checks everybody disappears
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