re: 12 year old pitcher throwing 80 mph

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I know it's not a popular opinion, but elbow injuries have been a problem for the last 10-15 years. And IMO, it starts at the youth level. You can't have kids snapping off curves when they are 8-9-10 years old and their elbows are nowhere near developed yet. It should be fastballs and change-ups until they are at least 13. You are right that sliders don't put the pressure on the elbow that curves/splits do, but I would still be hesitant to have any kid that young attempt those.

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curve and slider dont put any more either.

and curve/slider etc have been thrown since mid 80s

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What is also a problem is pitching every pitch at 100% effort

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you are right but its more because they dont have the muscle to support that nor the on ramp to support it.

problem is more they never throw with intent during practice...i.e. pull downs and long toss then want to go on the mount and throw as hard as they can

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Coaches/orginazations are too hung up in on velo over actually pitching/location

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because velo matters man. all you have to do is go look at the stats vs velo. from ll to mlb....velo is the #1 determining factor on HHA against

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pitch at 80-90% capacity and only go full effort when necessary.

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i agree with this but you have to build where your 90% is faster than everyone you play against 100% or you atleast build until you are still in the top 10%



but the much much much bigger problem is lack of muscle and strength compared to previous generations. We have had pitch counts, time off, etc etc for 2 decades now and its only gotten worse

doctors keep doubling down saying its overuse and the problems keep getting worse and worse

maybe the problem isnt as simple as overuse and we should stop screaming that. maybe its underuse and being under prepared for the demands of the game situations. Got kids cant do a pull up going out and throwing with all out intent....that is a problem. got kids that cant do 5 proper pushups at 12 getting on the bump.

kids need to throw more i.e. long toss more and need to on ramp slower to high intent throwing

they need to start lifting weights at a very early age. We got parent who will send their kid out to get crushed by older kids in tackle football but wont let their kids lift weights because of being uneducated and believing in myths that it stunts growth or in baseball makes one muscle bound etc

we need kids to take arm care seriously if you are a serious athlete, even at early ages

need kids and parent to start taking sleep and nutrition serious if they want to prevent these things.


got high school kids all over who say their goals are to play professional ball but they dont prepare like a professional.