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re: On this day in 1945, the city of Nagasaki is wiped off the face of the earth...

Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:39 am to
After seeing Oppenheimer over the weekend, I've come to the conclusion that the reasoning behind building the bomb was sound, beat the Nazi's. Once the bomb was tested, that should have been it. Nazi's were gone, Japan wasn't building one. No possible reason exists to use that much force and unleash what we did on the world.

We've invaded countless times after Japan without stopping to say, "if we use the bomb, we can stop this with less casualties." That's because we've used it already and the shite storm from it will never cease. It boils down to Truman just trying to swing his dick around like a big boy, just like they wanted him to when they railroaded Henry Wallace. They got perpetual war, at the cost of unlocking the deadliest weapon known to man.

We should have bit the bullet, invaded, waited for the Russians to invade, and got the full scale surrender that was coming anyway. Would the Russians have ever gotten the bomb made if we shuttered it after Trinity? Who knows. I don't think they got enough from Fuchs to go full scale. The continued production and testing caused more leaks. Cap it after Trinity, all signs point to...we keep this from ever seeing the light of day in a war time scenario. As it should have been.

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:54 am to
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After seeing Oppenheimer over the weekend

We got an expert here
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:18 pm to
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We should have bit the bullet, invaded, waited for the Russians to invade, and got the full scale surrender that was coming anyway.


Surrender would have never happened.

Japan would have killed every last man, woman, and child before surrendering.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16656 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 3:02 pm to
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We should have bit the bullet, invaded, waited for the Russians to invade, and got the full scale surrender that was coming anyway. 



Hindsight isn't 20/20 in your case, it's pretty ignorant and naive. The fact that the world saw what just two atomic bombs, that were a tiny fraction of the yields of modern strategic warheads, has done very well to regulate them to little more than bluffing pieces for the last 6 decades. The lives lost in Japan not only saved at least as many lives from ending the war, but untold millions had such weapons been used decades later without having a live record of their destructive potential.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5652 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:57 pm to
So have you ever seen action?

I thought not.

You’re probably typing this tripe from your mom’s basement.

Why don’t you go over and help the Ukrainians?
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