re: "Gender affirming healthcare"

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honest discussion is when you actually argue based on your beliefs

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So you don't beleive you can have an honest discussion without arguing your beliefs? What about an honest discussion to help form your beliefs? I honestly don't have strong held beliefs on the trans issue. I find it an extremely fascinating topic and one that potentially has huge implications as transhumanism starts to enter the picture. After all if gender ID is a highly debated issue wait till we start asking What is human.. So Im just asking questions...throwing out ideas to try to form my opinion.

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say you don't agree with toxic hormones and surgeries and are just basically arguing for the sake of discussion.

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Again that is a subject I'm still not sure about at least when it comes to adults.The data is...well there just isn't a lot of it. The pushing of the affirmative care model is problematic imo.

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one on here believes that is the case infact I personally believe, deep down, you're ashamed to admit you believe in trans people. Just FYI, that shame, is your conscience telling you that you're wrong.

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Believe in trans people? I believe there are folks that perceive themselves as trans. Why would I be ashamed of that? I think folks on this board have such strong opinions on this subject and others that it is difficult to engage with someone that doesn't...hence the assumptions and accusations about what I beleive or what I'm ashamed of. It happens a lot...its kinda wierd.