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re: New construction exterior sheathing

Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:45 pm to
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With Zip panels, do y’all flash wall penetrations with the tape or the liquid flash? I’m guessing both liquid and tape might each be better in some applications than the other. If Zip is used for roof decking, would you still top it with IW shield in the valleys, hips, sealed ridges, eves, etc. or just shingle strait on the zip in those areas?



Liquid flashing will usually outperform tapes in any application but it comes with a cost of labor and materials. Tape is easy and quick to apply but smearing goop is a tedious. The most important thing is to use the tapes and sealants that are made for system. I'm sure things can be mixed up and interchange different manufactures materials but sticking with what we know works is best practice by a wide margin. And of course the ever useless warranty will require to follow the manu's system of products if that matters at all to you.


I think ZIP and Weatherlogic are the two taped panel systems readily available. zip being much more known.


As far as roof decking, thats something the roofer and builder would have to answer and probably also the manu of the panels. Many variables to that. Foamed roof deck, complicated roof lines, weather region..... I would think IW shield in the valleys at least it would always be worth the extra cost.

As much of an improvement these panels are over building wrap, they aren't bullet proof. Rainscreens that let the sheathing dry when is does eventually get wet is fantastic. Also very helpful is generous roof overhangs that keep the bulk of the water off the sides of the house . Problem with that is most architects don't think in terms of home performance and are building homes like freaking legos.


Here is a great youtube of Landus Bennet, the inventor of zip. No longer works for Huber but still is very active in the building science sector. They breakdown the pros and cons of different WRBs. LINK

Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2785 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 9:50 pm to
If I could start my career over again I'd be a building science geek. Building durable structures is satisfying, and desperately needed.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1076 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:41 am to
Yes, I've thought of the rain shield as well - thank you for pointing that out. Cladding will be vertical cement board, so I'm thinking we can always do horizontal perforated or corrugated furring strips which would provide a rain shield for ventilation between cladding and WRB and also a nailing surface for vertically hung cement board. Not sure if that is common practice or not though. I love the idea of Zip - it's the installation that worries me. If you have good seals at the seams and penetrations, then no worries. Just need to inspect very closely as it is being installed whereas a wrap may have more forgiveness with the install - possibly. A decent middle ground between efficiency and forgiveness may be open cell - 1/2 cdx with taped seams (to increase air barrier), wrap, rain shield (furring strips that allow drainage/vent), cladding. This should create a good rain/air barrier while still having a good perm rate - creates a good seal while still preparing for perm/ventiliation when water does get behind the cladding.
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