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re: proposed speck and redfish changes

Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2497 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 2:27 pm to
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The problem is the ecosystem is nowhere close to the same and that level of conservation would be pointless. There is nothing Louisiana anglers can do to produce the same size fish found in either Florida or Texas. quote:


I’m not talking about just catch and release. LA is far behind when it comes to water quality, trash in the marsh, taking care of public ramps, commercial fishing regs, and basically anything else you could think of. Catch and release is just a small but helpful part of that.

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Why not have a website where guides and recreational anglers can go to post their trip details so the wlf can have a better idea?


This is not a bad idea but it will only account for a small amount of what is necessary. You could run into the argument everyone tried to use to invalidate the ldwf surveys.

People are so quick to look at what is happening right now and not long term trends. I’ve had an incredibly successful past two years but I don’t believe that’s indicative of the direction our fishery is going over the last 10, 20, 50 years. If you have fished that long then you should be well aware of how much it has diminished.

I think there are many factors outside of the rec anglers control contributing to a decline but, to me, I don’t really care what condition the fishery is currently in. I am a proponent of doing whatever is within my control to make it the best that it can be. If it’s currently improving then I’m fascinated with how we can make it even better. That’s just my personality with everything.

TLDR: everyone should find ways to give back to the fishery in whatever way they see fit. I’m ok with that but I’m not ok with a greedy, all take and no give mindset.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28376 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 4:58 pm to
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You could run into the argument everyone tried to use to invalidate the ldwf surveys.
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LA is far behind when it comes to water quality, trash in the marsh, taking care of public ramps, commercial fishing regs, and basically anything else you could think of.


Not really sure what you mean by water quality, but I can agree on the rest of the things you mentioned needing work.
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You could run into the argument everyone tried to use to invalidate the ldwf surveys.


I can understand your concern, but if you listen to the charter boat guys who are out there every day making their living fishing, I’m sure you can get some fair information. They are out there every day and know what’s going on.

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I’ve had an incredibly successful past two years but I don’t believe that’s indicative of the direction our fishery is going over the last 10, 20, 50 years. If you have fished that long then you should be well aware of how much it has diminished.

Fair, but there a ton of other factors at play that likely won’t change. Number of folks fishing, diminishing land. It may never be as good as it is now, no matter what.

The river diversions they are about to unleash will completely mess up things from grand isle and to the west.
I think some of these lower limits is to set people up for when they eventually mess up the entire fishery.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30806 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 6:54 am to
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I’m not talking about just catch and release. LA is far behind when it comes to water quality, trash in the marsh, taking care of public ramps, commercial fishing regs, and basically anything else you could think of. Catch and release is just a small but helpful part of that.
yet we ignore the elephant in the room, our rapidly and exponentially degrading habitat and the impact this has on all of our fisheries. bass fishing, sac au lait fishing and even catfishing is exponentially better than when I was a youngster(started fishing 1973). yet specks, reds and flounders are in fact declining. conservation works - 1973 in some parishes you would make the news if you saw a deer much less killed one - where deer are common now.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 6:56 am
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