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re: Police Absurdities

Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:36 am to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20198 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:36 am to
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Also, the problem with allowing "I smell something" isn't that it SHOULD be a decent metric. It's that there is exactly zero ability to cross examine someone's nose.


How do you cross examine a cop’s vision, or auditory sensation, or touch sensation from a pat-down?

You need to slow your roll. You’re biased and aren’t making any sense.

It sure is easy to pick something apart, but creating solutions that actually work is another thing. Tell me your plan for a better law enforcement model.
Posted by Worthy Adversary
Member since Jun 2023
128 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:43 am to
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How do you cross examine a cop’s vision, or auditory sensation, or touch sensation from a pat-down?

Well, with a body cam, if a cop sees it, it might be on cam. Or, other people might see the same thing.

Frankly, the discretion of officers should be SEVERELY narrowed but the point is, there are exactly zero ways to verify nose. Vision can be shared by others. Touch.......well, I mean shite. If you touched it and you pulled it out and it turned out to be a rubber duckie, you're an idiot anyway.
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It sure is easy to pick something apart, but creating solutions that actually work is another thing. Tell me your plan for a better law enforcement model.

Start by recognize officers are humans and stop treating them like they aren't.

Show as much skepticism with them as you would an IRS agent. Then, set policy accordingly because as bad as an IRS guy is, he can't tie you up, kidnap you and put you in a cage.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
1396 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:44 am to
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Tell me your plan for a better law enforcement model.


Uh, just about every other country on the planet's police force behaves better than ours. And the founding fathers never intended for us to live under the tyranny of police departments. That's why they gave us the 2nd Amendment. The original role of the sheriff was to serve papers and, if need be, assemble a group of already armed citizens. But you've got cops out there arresting people for giving them the middle finger or calling them assholes. Even though both are constitutionally protected. Cops get their feelings hurt easily and think they can do whatever they want. They're bullies.
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