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re: The 501(c)(3) Trojan Horse in the American Church (another LBJ gift)

Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:37 pm to
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I probably didn’t respond because I said what I said and so did you and there a further discussion on the subject was fruitless. Your illogical and unscientific opinions aren’t proving me wrong
I'm interpreting the Bible based on its own context, showing objectively that its own language is proving you wrong every time. You keep throwing out "contradictions" and I keep showing you how they are not logical contradictions. Instead of refuting me, you move on to the next lie.

Must be nice to be able to make a false claim and then not have to support while saying "further discussion on the subject (is) fruitless".

That's also an interesting tactic because in the prior response, you called me out for not responding to you, as if you expected me to engage with your poor argumentation, while then ignoring my response and then saying you "said what [you] said" (and were done responding). Why the double standard?

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You see, the Bible says two different things. The priests bought it. Judas bought it.
You see, the Bible uses language very similar to we do in every day parlance. I can lend my son money to buy a car and both of us can say we bought the car; there is no logical contradiction there. All an alleged contradiction requires is a probably explanation and it goes away. It's not necessarily a contradiction if it can be resolved, and I don't even need to show that the explanation is correct, only that it could be correct, and if it could be correct, then a contradiction isn't necessary.

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There’s a problem with your bloated body idea too. Acts says he fell head-first. Judas couldn’t have banged himself and then fell head-first into the field.
Why not? If he hanged himself in a tree and he went up high enough, or if the tree was on a small cliff in the field, he could have rotated in the air if the rope (or branch) broke. It could be possible that if the rope were long enough, he could have been decapitated and his innards came out that way. There are a few different possibilities that can harmonize the accounts, and as I just said, all that is needed to dispel a contradiction is a plausible explanation. You don't need to be convinced of it for it to be valid.

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To me the only plausible explanation is that the writer of Luke/Acts intended to overwrite and supersede Matthew (and Mark) and didn’t get ahold of the older gospels to burn them (like they did to Marcion’s Bible and his Antithesis) before they were spread out of control.
Just because you reject a plausible explanation doesn't mean it's not plausible. You're not offering a rebuttal here. You're just speculating on other unproven conjectures that you hope to be true to further justify your unbelief. You need to repent of your rejection of God's Word and put your trust in Jesus Christ before you perish in your sins and suffer for eternity under the wrath of your creator.

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I don’t hate “God”. I just realize that what you are calling “God”, Paul called the “god of this world” and it is that god who is the evil creator, that god tried to temp Jesus on the mountain, that god is the god of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Elijah, Elisha, etc. in John Jesus says no one has ever seen his father, and I know you know that, and I know you know the patriarchs of the Old Testament met “God” face to face. That god would be “Satan” to the gospel writers, including canonical gospels but also non-canonical.
I already addressed this in a previous post that you refuse to respond to. Satan is not God and God is not Satan. Satan is a created being while God is eternal.

And yes, you do hate God, your creator. You are trying with everything in you to justify your rejection and suppression of the truth for the same reason why criminals hide from the police. You are guilty of treason against the King of creation and you deserve everlasting death.

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Catholic 1 Corinthians Chapter 15
Thank you for providing this. There are textual variants that the Latin Vulgate used that most others don't, which is why there is a discrepancy in the translations.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1900 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 11:38 am to
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I'm interpreting the Bible based on its own context, showing objectively that its own language is proving you wrong every time. You keep throwing out "contradictions" and I keep showing you how they are not logical contradictions. Instead of refuting me, you move on to the next lie.



I refute you, show you why you are wrong using scripture, then you deny the inspired words of God by making up some kind of hairbrained nonsensical theory, and then I move on.

Chew on this:

John 1:18
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No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.


John 5:37
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And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.


John 6:46
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Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.


1 John 4:12
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No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.


Genesis 3:8
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And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.


Genesis 5:22
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Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him.


Genesis 17:12
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When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless.


Genesis 26:24
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And the LORD appeared to him the same night and said, “I am the God of Abraham your father. Fear not, for I am with you and will bless you and multiply your offspring for my servant Abraham’s sake."


Genesis 32:30
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So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.


Exodus 24:9-10
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Then Moses and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up, and they saw the God of Israel. There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness.


Exodus 33:11
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Thus the LORD used to speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. When Moses turned again into the camp, his assistant Joshua the son of Nun, a young man, would not depart from the tent.


Job 42:5
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I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear, But now my eye sees You.


1 Kings 11:9
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And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart had turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice


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