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Let's talk Ukraine. Was there a Coup in 2014?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:02 pm
Were we involved in that?
Just a general conversation.
Just a general conversation.
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:16 pm to Jjdoc
We’re involved in every country one way or another. There was a probably a good amount of soft support for the upheaval during Euromaidan
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:16 pm to Jjdoc
Yes led by Barry Soetoro
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:17 pm to Jjdoc
Yes. No one with even the slightest bit of objectivity would disagree. Your boy Obama helped orchestrate it.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:17 pm to Jjdoc
I wish trump would have never approved the sell of weapons to Ukraine. Hindsight is 20/20 but this was 40 million dollars in lethal war weapons we sold to Ukraine
Didn't he approve 400 million in aid for their military as well?
LINK
Didn't he approve 400 million in aid for their military as well?
LINK
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:28 pm to Jjdoc
They call it a "revolution" but it was a "coup".
Previous Ukrainian president was fairly elected. The Western Ukros were pissed Eastern Ukrainian leaning president got elected and staged an actual coup.
Few instigators were shot via false flag which sparked the unrest/coup.
Russia got involved to secure it's assets in Crimea(military base) and other investments.
Oil reserves, lithium reserves, and ability to fck with Russia on their border. Also war in Ukraine is great for MIC business.
Lots and lots of good establishment reasons.
Then it was a proxy warfare since.
Previous Ukrainian president was fairly elected. The Western Ukros were pissed Eastern Ukrainian leaning president got elected and staged an actual coup.
Few instigators were shot via false flag which sparked the unrest/coup.
Russia got involved to secure it's assets in Crimea(military base) and other investments.
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Ok... But why?
Oil reserves, lithium reserves, and ability to fck with Russia on their border. Also war in Ukraine is great for MIC business.
Lots and lots of good establishment reasons.
Then it was a proxy warfare since.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:29 pm to Jjdoc
I’m not sure we would sleep at night if we knew the true depravity of the United States government.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:40 pm to Jjdoc
There was a coup in 2014 and before that. The coup was done by Russia though to try and get Ukraine to have closer ties with the Kremlin.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:48 pm to Jjdoc
Beyond the shadow of a doubt.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:53 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:05 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:12 am to Jjdoc
Yes, the cia and state department was.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 4:56 am to Jjdoc
Numerous threads have been posted here that have established a coup in Ukraine - Victoria Nuland is on recorded calls, calling the shots.
Since the globetrotting war enterprise really got started, Nuland has been in every administration except one - Trump's.
Since the globetrotting war enterprise really got started, Nuland has been in every administration except one - Trump's.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:04 am to Jjdoc
It’s difficult to find any objective write up on the revolution that you can feel is factual and not slanted propaganda. That said, there is more than enough anecdotal evidence to suggest the US and US sponsored NGOs were heavily involved in fomenting unrest via a color revolution and even admitted their objectives openly or in leaks.
The scary part is Ukraine is a tragic example of how a population can be manipulated by the elites and rally behind concepts that lead to their own self destruction. Given what we know now Ukraine would have been much better off assuming a neutral position, trying to reconcile their pro and anti Russian factions and becoming the trade hub between European and Russian interests.
They did not though and now I bet a lot of those young protestors are at room temperature as a result of the ongoing war and destruction of their country.
The scary part is Ukraine is a tragic example of how a population can be manipulated by the elites and rally behind concepts that lead to their own self destruction. Given what we know now Ukraine would have been much better off assuming a neutral position, trying to reconcile their pro and anti Russian factions and becoming the trade hub between European and Russian interests.
They did not though and now I bet a lot of those young protestors are at room temperature as a result of the ongoing war and destruction of their country.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 6:06 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:01 am to Jjdoc
Depends on perspective, if you supported the Russian controlled government they established it could be called a coup.
If you were a Ukrainian appreciating sovereignty and wanting to leave the Russian shite zone it was a color revolution just like other freedom loving people organized.
If you were a Ukrainian appreciating sovereignty and wanting to leave the Russian shite zone it was a color revolution just like other freedom loving people organized.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:51 pm to Jjdoc
I've linked some pieces laying out the meddling in Ukraine by the US and to some extent the EU...I think most people understand what's being spewed by the Gaslight Media to drum up support for Ukraine is 100% propaganda. 
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:33 pm to Jjdoc
LINK
The Timeline of Corruption
... this is a link to Glenn Beck explaining 2014 ...
Explains the timeline EXACTLY ...
... because as this was happening in Ukraine a timeline was taking place here in the United States that was to merge together with the Ukraine business in 2016. It was all supposed to be seamless, we were NEVER supposed to see what happened, and see what they were doing-- when that woman was supposed have won the whitehouse race --- but guess what, she didn't win, now did she
And that orange guy got in her way
So here we are
had to edit because the link was different
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 8:22 pm
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