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re: Wouldn't it make sense for invaders at the southern border to be shot on sight?
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:26 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:26 pm to Indefatigable
The military can't be involved against Americans. These aren't Americans. They are criminal illegals invading our country.
I give you Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution.
If you want to pretend we aren't being invaded from the south, feel free. But you might want to consider that the total US population in 1790 was just a tick under 4 million people. At present, we don't even know how many criminal illegals we have in this country, but it is somewhere between 20 and 50 million. Our Founding Fathers would immediately recognize this as the invasion that it is.
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18 U.S.C. § 1385. Use of Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Space Force as posse comitatus: Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress,
I give you Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution.
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The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
If you want to pretend we aren't being invaded from the south, feel free. But you might want to consider that the total US population in 1790 was just a tick under 4 million people. At present, we don't even know how many criminal illegals we have in this country, but it is somewhere between 20 and 50 million. Our Founding Fathers would immediately recognize this as the invasion that it is.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 5/11/23 at 1:50 pm to troyt37
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The military can't be involved against Americans. These aren't Americans. They are criminal illegals invading our country.
The Posse Comitatus Act prevents the military from conducting domestic law enforcement on American soil, with no regard for whether the individuals involved are American or not. The US military cannot enforce domestic law except in situations that are not (at this time) present at the border under existing law. They can push paper and pass out water bottles.
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If you want to pretend we aren't being invaded from the south, feel free.
It isn't me pretending. No court in the United States is going to or has classified illegal immigration as an invasion as contemplated by Article IV.
And you bolded the wrong language if you are arguing that the end-around Posse Comitatus is located in Article IV:
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shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence
Congress and the States involved could fix the issue if they wanted to under the federal government's authority over the bolded areas above. It still isn't an invasion and as much as we all may hate the legalese/sematic bullshite, will never be considered one. Its dumb to bang your head against that wall when there are other avenues.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 5/11/23 at 4:01 pm to troyt37
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The military can't be involved against Americans. These aren't Americans.
You're so close to the logic necessary to see why your idea is terrible.
Have you ever tried to disprove yourself? I really don't think it would take you that long.
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