re: 1995 movie Heat, De Niro, Pacino, etc

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Never seen someone whiff this hard on a point.

That was the challenge to see if he was as committed to his ideals as he bragged the entire movie

It’s the lynchpin of the entire fricking plot man

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I'm going to try to remember everything I noticed in the movie.

McCauley seemed disciplined the entire movie but actually wasn't. His 30 seconds flat was nothing concrete as his entire crew had tie-downs. A disciplined leader wouldn't let that happen. He would also vet members that don't rat or say stupid shite.

Did he not vet Cheritto and Waingro for stability issues? Why would a disciplined person take Waingro to a damn diner to go kill him out back in the parking lot? Why not kidnap him and kill him somewhere else? Cheritto is chatting up about jobs to other people. That's the entire reason the cops were on them in the first place.

He kept letting Chris do gambling problems and having problems at home. I don't see a disciplined leader doing that.

What about going back to kill Waingro after he was home free to leave on the plane?

The relationship showed that he was done with the whole thing and wanted out of being alone.

Again, it was a show that he was disciplined not that he actually was.

Overall, he let his emotions get to him. Opposite of being disciplined.

The love story was not part of the discipline part but the end of "being disciplined" and out of that life.