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Holliday's Impact

Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:09 am
Posted by lmount
Leesville
Member since Sep 2007
118 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:09 am
Trindon hasn't been making as many big plays as he did last year i think he should be getting a few more touches
Posted by cenla tigah
cenla
Member since Sep 2007
5521 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:12 am to
I think teams are more prepared for him this year
Posted by tigerjuice
Gramercy
Member since Jan 2004
4849 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:14 am to
I think he needs to be getting more touches also but I think with the emergence of CS his touches have been limited.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:15 am to
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I think teams are more prepared for him this year


How can you say that when he doesn't even get in game anymore? Not ONE freaking touch Saturday night.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:15 am to
The problem with Holiday is simple. For his speed to be an asset on the field, he still needs to be a surprise. For him to be a surprise, it can't be OBVIOUS where he'll be going.

But, unfortunately, it has become obvious in the last couple years that he is quite simply NOT trusted to catch the ball. So, when he lines up on the right, there is pretty much nill chance he'll be getting hit with a quick pass on that side with the opportunity to make folks miss. Now that defenses know that, they pretty much know that when he's on the field, he's gonna take a handoff. So, if he's on the right, he's goin left. That aint really all that hard to defend.
Posted by lmount
Leesville
Member since Sep 2007
118 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:17 am to
was it troys gameplan to blotch every kickoff to keep it away from holliday or were they just trying to got a lucky fumble
Posted by BLAKE W
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
853 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:18 am to
Line him up in the slot, and let him go deep. Who's gonna keep up with him.
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:19 am to
We are using him worng and when he lines up in the backfield, grandmothers know what play is coming.
Posted by lmount
Leesville
Member since Sep 2007
118 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Line him up in the slot, and let him go deep. Who's gonna keep up with him.


+1
Posted by Towelie
America's Wang
Member since Aug 2007
19214 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Line him up in the slot, and let him go deep.


You realize he has like two career catches right?

quote:

Who's gonna keep up with him.


that's not the issue
Posted by lmount
Leesville
Member since Sep 2007
118 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:24 am to
IMO his speed should be one of our weapons the coaches need to find a way to use him (not like we have been) NO ONE is faster than this guy...yea he is small but Crowton has to have a few plays in his hat that would be explosive
Posted by booga
used to be maui
Member since Feb 2008
1469 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:26 am to
It seems like we have a lot of EA NCAA 09 coaches in this thread.
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
10172 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:28 am to
seems like we could use him as a decoy at least to run off a corner and safety and throw to someone else underneath.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:29 am to
IMO his speed should be one of our weapons the coaches need to find a way to use him (not like we have been) NO ONE is faster than this guy...yea he is small but Crowton has to have a few plays in his hat that would be explosive

Speed don't help you much if I know where you're going and if you're pretty much no threat to go out for a pass, I know where you're going.

Tell me where you'd line up Holiday that the defense wouldn't know EXACTLY how to defend him since he's pretty much no threat in the air.

And folks, cmon, if the guy could catch, you actually think Crowton wouldn't throw to him? Pahleez.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:29 am to
his impact was LSU getting GREAT field position everytime because troy was scared.

i'll take that.

besides, when he's in the RB position, it's telegraphed to him everytime.
Posted by LSU25Tigers
Lafayette, La
Member since Oct 2007
245 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:31 am to
quote:

The problem with Holiday is simple. For his speed to be an asset on the field, he still needs to be a surprise. For him to be a surprise, it can't be OBVIOUS where he'll be going


A guy who is this fast and can score from anywhere on the field should touch the ball more no questions asked. speed kills and he has plenty of it. i dont think he needs to be a surprise i just think he needs to be on the field more. other than just coming into the game when a play is designed for him. use him more in the offense.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21649 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:31 am to
he is being used completely wrong.

The comment about the NCAA 09 is bullshite. Anyone can tell you he is not being utilized.

We need to just fake it to him every now and then too. Every time #8 is on the field, there is 100% chance it's going to him.

VERY predictable and stupid.
Posted by jwill37
The Chuck
Member since Jan 2007
1383 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:41 am to
quote:

besides, when he's in the RB position, it's telegraphed to him everytime.


When we give it to him in the rb position he does well. Where it's predictale is when he comes from the wr position running toward the short side of the field. Whoever came up with that play is an idiot. We should put him in the backfield behind those big lineman so they can't see him. That's what is so effective for demps and rainey they comes through that line without the d-lineman seeing them and then if they make one person miss it's to the house. And don't give me that demps weighs 170 and trindon is 160 bulls*it. At that weight there's no difference. He's 2-3 shorter anyway. Just ask usc how effective a small running back can be and that kid (jaquizz rogers) can't weigh much more than 160.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70444 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:45 am to
To see how Holliday can best be utilized, one only needs to watch the movie Willow.
Posted by BullSam
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2007
943 posts
Posted on 11/17/08 at 11:50 am to
Why does Holliday have to be a "surprise" to be used? Is Rainey (UF) a "surprise"? Hell no - they just run him & dare you to try to catch him. Come on, Miles, take a page out of Meyer's playbook.
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