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Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:41 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:41 am to
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Lack of mental health care, growing gap between the upperclass and everyone else making life hard for everyone who isn't rich, and of course the part that the OT will refuse to acknowledge; gun culture has skyrocketed over the last 25 years and it's stupidly easy for literally any chucklefrick off the street to stockpile an arsenal of military grade weapons that have no purpose other than causing mass casualties


Of course, none of this true.

Gun violence (homicides) were a record highs in the middle of the 1990s and then fell substantially between 2000-2008. They then rose again between 2008-2016 but the fell hard between 2016-2020. There has been a recent spike since 2020 due to massive social unrest.

The wealth gap was present and growing faster during the periods of low gun violence.

Mental health has always been a constant.

Gun laws in the US are stricter now then they have ever been.

One variable that have an actual effect is poor economic times caused by hyperinflation and the shutting down the economy due to COVID. The bigger one however is the social shift to reducing law enforcement and punishment for violent crime since 2020.

What you tolerate, you encourage.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4392 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:45 am to
The obvious answer is the obvious thing.

We have more mental health awareness now than ever, it’s not that.

As a society we’ve lost all personal responsibility. The things we’ve allowed to become common place in entertainment have now become common place in our society. Rap music, video games, pornography, violent movies all combined with the loss of two parent homes and the dissolution of the family combine to cause all this.

Throw in social media and it’s a powder keg.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55926 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 7:58 am to
The “murder rate was higher in the 90s” argument is kind of bull shite. More trauma centers near high crime areas and medical innovation are the only reason that is true.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64914 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:04 am to
I watching Fox 6 news from Bham right now. The top of the hour headlines are:

1. Hostage situation in Fultondale
2. Abortion drug case going to SCOTUS
3. Start of USFL season.

Zero mention of Dadeville.

ETA: they just mentioned it. All they said is there was a shooting but they have no further details.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:06 am to
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Gun violence (homicides) were a record highs in the middle of the 1990s and then fell substantially between 2000-2008. They then rose again between 2008-2016 but the fell hard between 2016-2020. There has been a recent spike since 2020 due to massive social unrest.


There is something about those timelines that I just can't put my finger on.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18125 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 8:20 am to
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Gun violence (homicides) were a record highs in the middle of the 1990s and then fell substantially between 2000-2008. They then rose again between 2008-2016 but the fell hard between 2016-2020. There has been a recent spike since 2020 due to massive social unrest.

I'm not seeing that hard 2016-2020 fall... or any reduction between 2000 and 08

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