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re: OT Ukraine thread - you were not kidding
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:55 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:55 pm to Bunk Moreland
There hasn't been any significant movement anywhere since Ukraine's counteroffensive in Kherson Oblast last summer.
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Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:57 pm to ABearsFanNMS
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:05 pm to Pettifogger
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You've got to be intentionally obtuse not to notice that every pro-Putin pro-Russian success story, no matter how poorly sourced
This is rich considering the pro-Ukrainian propaganda that's out there.
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followed by people claiming that Putin is fighting globalism and for Christianity/etc.
Putin has been pretty consistent in supporting Christianity while not castigating other faiths. Seems like a reasonable position. And he's been consistent in his support of national sovereignty v globalism. Another reasonable position that is echoed by a lot here in the US. So, these are not baseless claims. And his positions are not controversial. Putin's words and actions are well aligned here.
Not sure why that's a problem.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:12 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Good Lord! I assumed that was a hyperbolic troll.
You've got to be intentionally obtuse
If you were serious that would easily rank among the dumbest posts uploaded to this board in a while.
Now then, you weren't really serious were you though?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:34 pm to POTUS2024
quote:Today is the first I'd heard of the Minsk treachery - Germany, France, and Ukraine used the guise of the Minsk Peace Agreements to disguise Ukraine's preparation for war. It is the kind of disgusting misuse of diplomacy we'd normally associate with Hitler, Stalin, or Tojo.
This is rich considering the pro-Ukrainian propaganda that's out there.
The fact that our western press then reported RUSSIA was the party breaching the Minsk accords is as ironic and illuminating a perspective setter as anything I've encountered.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:49 pm to jackamo3300
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One was done against a country for reasons which did not include long term occupation for hegemonic reasons,
We were in Iraq from 2003-12/2021. We still have 2500 “trainers” there. Our plan was to establish permanent bases there until we were routinely getting our asses kicked just like in Afghanistan. They built the US Embassy there like a huge fortress because we thought Iraq would become a vassal state to the US.
Please get the frick out of here saying what we did was completely different than Russia.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:52 pm to NC_Tigah
So Ukraine needed time to build up its forces to defend against a Russian invasion. Seems prudent considering Russia did invade.
Russia is in far worse shape now than before. They’ve expended material that will take years to replenish and caused NATO members to expand and increase their own expenditures.
Russia is a rotting corpse that hasn’t yet realized it is dead.
Even if Russia can end up claiming some sort of military victory in Ukraine(doubtful) they weakened themselves significantly while pushing NATO to become significantly stronger.
Russia is in far worse shape now than before. They’ve expended material that will take years to replenish and caused NATO members to expand and increase their own expenditures.
Russia is a rotting corpse that hasn’t yet realized it is dead.
Even if Russia can end up claiming some sort of military victory in Ukraine(doubtful) they weakened themselves significantly while pushing NATO to become significantly stronger.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:54 pm to ReeseBobby
AGAIN, your denseness
EVERY DIPLOMAT OF 30 YEARS AGO BELLOWED THIS TRUTH
Who could have predicted that people like you would be supportive of neo-Bolsheviks getting their genocide bands back together
[much less taking over the US Government as they have]
EVERY DIPLOMAT OF 30 YEARS AGO BELLOWED THIS TRUTH
Who could have predicted that people like you would be supportive of neo-Bolsheviks getting their genocide bands back together
[much less taking over the US Government as they have]
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:57 pm to ReeseBobby
quote:GREAT, shite-for-brains, there is a double entendre that I am positive went right over your head, even as simple as it is
Well thought out response. Will read again.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:57 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
So Russia invaded her neighbor in the name of peace? Russia attacked Ukraine not the other way around. It appears you are the one who supports genocide.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:59 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
Don't laugh for long because your children will be drafted, too
No kids yet but I'd doubt potato brain will be around in 20 years to drum up another world war.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:13 pm to ReeseBobby
quote:no, shite-for-brains, Russia invaded because of the 30 year admonitions and geopolitically well known trigger that was perpetrated by the Khazarians controlling the US Government
So Russia invaded her neighbor in the name of peace? Russia attacked Ukraine not the other way around. It appears you are the one who supports genocide.
neo-Bolsheviks doing neo-bolshevik things in the exact same place the original Bolsheviks did the first Bolshevik violence in EXACTLY the same manner as they did their first - if it WAS only their first time
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:22 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Into the Shadow in the Valley of Death
First published in 1854, the ‘Charge of the Light Brigade’ was about the ‘glorious’ deaths of a British brigade of Light Horse in a famous charge against fixed, mostly ground works, fortifications manned by Russian Regular Calvary, as well as Cossack Mounted in a defense of a captured Russian seaport in the previous version of the Crimean War.
First published in 1854, the ‘Charge of the Light Brigade’ was about the ‘glorious’ deaths of a British brigade of Light Horse in a famous charge against fixed, mostly ground works, fortifications manned by Russian Regular Calvary, as well as Cossack Mounted in a defense of a captured Russian seaport in the previous version of the Crimean War.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:23 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
So you believe Russias invasion is justified because of geopolitics. And it was the wests intention to undermine Russia with underhanded diplomacy than said underhanded diplomacy worked. Russia committed itself to a unwinnable war and exposed their own massive corruption.
The west just checkmated Russia without a single NATO soldier being killed. At least if all the mumbo jumbo you keep spewing is to be believed.
The west just checkmated Russia without a single NATO soldier being killed. At least if all the mumbo jumbo you keep spewing is to be believed.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 4:53 pm to ReeseBobby
quote:Germany and France offered themselves as neutral peace negotiators. They lied! They were thoroughly dishonest brokers. That, and their admission as such, is a multidecade mistake for both sides.
So Ukraine needed time to build up its forces to defend against a Russian invasion.
The damage in trust is done with Russia. The US might have benefitted from either of those countries overseeing negotiations in the future. Unfortunately neither will or should be an option again ... for years.
Meanwhile the US and UK scuttled Turkish mediated talks in March-April last year.
In the future, Russia will insist on self-interested and non-western aligned brokers such as China in the future. That insistence is COMPLETELY justified based on the idiotic and demonstrable duplicity of Europeans and Americans in these previous exchanges with Russia.
The lack of integrity in negotiation was something justifiably associated with Russia (USSR) in the past. That association is no longer valid.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 5:03 pm to ReeseBobby
quote:You nitwits keep discussing Russian "justification." Was Russia "justified" in this? Or was Russia "justified" in that?
So you believe Russias invasion is justified because of geopolitics.
Let's be crystal clear, virtually every Russian action since dissolution of the Warsaw Pact has been in response to (an unnecessary) Western aggression.
The question is WTF are we doing?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 5:07 pm to NC_Tigah
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The question is WTF are we doing?
Based on the state of the Russian Army and society I’d say we are winning.
If that’s the wests actual goal.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 5:08 pm to ReeseBobby
quote:
The west just checkmated Russia without a single NATO soldier being killed. At least if all the mumbo jumbo you keep spewing is to be believed.
The west just checkmated themselves. energy shortages, ammunition shortages, collapsing economies and tranny obsession.
Ukraine supporters are some of the dumbest motherfrickers on the internet. FYI dipshit, more than 150K Ukrainians already dead. NATO trained meatbags in Ukraine are getting killed everyday. US military can't even recruit new people and all of the European NATO countries arms are getting depleted.
How Embarrassing.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 5:09 pm to ReeseBobby
quote:
Based on the state of the Russian Army and society I’d say we are winning.
You call Russia and China being allies now, "winning"?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 5:10 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Trump should of met Putin in Munich and brought us “Peace in our time “
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