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re: Will Gentrification Ever Happen in Baton Rouge?

Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:08 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:08 am to
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In what way did the developer do very well? How much do you think IBM is paying the developer for their lease?

The government put up less than half of the funds for that project, btw. IBM occupies all but two floors of the commercial space.


I read where state and local govt put up about 74 million dollars for the project.

I asked you a question, why didn’t the developers do well? They received millions of dollars for the project, right?

There are apartments, townhome and parking too in the development. It’s not just office space and IBM isn’t the only tenant.
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1454 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:41 am to
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I read where state and local govt put up about 74 million dollars for the project. I asked you a question, why didn’t the developers do well? They received millions of dollars for the project, right? There are apartments, townhome and parking too in the development. It’s not just office space and IBM isn’t the only tenant.


I told you the economics of that deal were greatly misunderstood and you proved my point perfectly when you said you heard the government put up most of the funds for construction.

If you have a problem with the project as a whole, that’s fine. I won’t dispute that. But if you think the developer didn’t have to pass on more profitable projects due to its commitment to the IBM deal, you are mistaken.

You don’t need to answer my question because I know you can’t.


Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:46 am to
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There are apartments, townhome and parking too in the development. It’s not just office space and IBM isn’t the only tenan


IIRC, the developer did well. They are about to start another similar building by the water campus dock thing. It would have been farther along, but the pandemic slowed down everything. I think that’s going to be geared towards engineering companies though and not tech. And Louisiana desperately needs to attract more tech service centers like IBM and DXE.

IBM’s service center isn’t the only office tenant in the IBM building BTW. They have a service center there that takes up a lot of space, but there are 5-6 other companies in there including a couple of B4 accounting/consulting field offices and the Cane’s corporate office.

That’s a very nice building. If space opens up there, it will attract tenants from older, more outdated buildings.

As bad as the office market has been nationwide since the pandemic, it’s actually comparatively healthy in New Orleans and Baton Rouge partially because those two markets were never super hot for speculative office towers. It also helps that the local populace isn’t as terrified of Covid as they are in Minneapolis, San Francisco, etc.

There is office availability in Baton Rouge (albeit not as much as bigger markets like Atlanta or Houston), but there really isn’t a lot of buildings where a tenant can get more than 2500-3000 square feet on the same floor. That’s why they are looking closely at another low to mid rise office building.

And several office buildings in the SoLa cities have been converted to residential, reducing available supply. And state workers in BR are starting to get back to the office now.
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