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re: Tax question on a home sale - ordinary income vs capital gains
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:31 pm to Browncd81
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:31 pm to Browncd81
quote:
But I'm trying to figure out why a home sale is being taxed as ordinary income and not capital gains.
Without looking at your tax return, I am assuming you are dealing with depreciation recapture, which is ordinary income.
Basically, if you took 30K in depreciation deductions over the rental years, then that deprececiation reduced your basis in the house. Then, the gain attributable to that reduced basis come back as ordinary income.
Any gain above that should be taxed as long term capital gains, given what you have stated.
Simple example: Buy house in 2015 for 200K, take 30K depreciation over the years, sell house in 2022 for 250K, pay $15K closing costs at sale (commission, cover buyer costs, whatever).
Basis of home at time of sale: 200K - 30K = $170K
Net proceeds - $250K - $15K - $235K
Gain: $235K - $170K - $65K
Ordinary gain: $30K
LTCG: $65K - $30K = $35K
Now, if the numbers worked out such that the amount of depreciation taken over the years exceeds your total gain, then all of it would be depreciation recapture, and no long term capital gain.
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it's making me ineligible for credits for my children.
Nah. Those credits are based on total income, including cap gains, so this would only be an issue if you had other cap losses you were trying to offset against cap gains.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:42 pm to LSUFanHouston
Thanks LSUFan, that is pretty much my scenario. I'll throw in actual #'s. Insanely inflated figures since in Hawaii and I was able to buy on VA Loan and afford it via renting to friends.
Bought for $740k
Closing of $16k
Added in $20k of capital improvements along the way
Took ~$101k of depreciation
Net cost basis should be $675k (?)
Sold for $1,499k
Expenses of $142k (commissions, deductible repairs, etc)
Net proceeds minus expenses: $1,357k
Gain: $1,357k - $675k = $682k (?)
Ordinary gain - $101k
LTCG - $682k - $101k = $581k (?)
Actually looks like it makes sense now. My error was not knowing that capital gains impact Modified Adjusted Gross Income. That is why I was thinking the entire gain was being treated as ordinary income. Kind of dumb that capital gains prevent you from deducting from childcare and preschool expenses since it's not like I'll be able to replicate this annually, this was a one time benefit I got super lucky on
Bought for $740k
Closing of $16k
Added in $20k of capital improvements along the way
Took ~$101k of depreciation
Net cost basis should be $675k (?)
Sold for $1,499k
Expenses of $142k (commissions, deductible repairs, etc)
Net proceeds minus expenses: $1,357k
Gain: $1,357k - $675k = $682k (?)
Ordinary gain - $101k
LTCG - $682k - $101k = $581k (?)
Actually looks like it makes sense now. My error was not knowing that capital gains impact Modified Adjusted Gross Income. That is why I was thinking the entire gain was being treated as ordinary income. Kind of dumb that capital gains prevent you from deducting from childcare and preschool expenses since it's not like I'll be able to replicate this annually, this was a one time benefit I got super lucky on
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:04 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Basis of home at time of sale: 200K - 30K = $170K
Net proceeds - $250K - $15K - $235K
Gain: $235K - $170K - $65K
Ordinary gain: $30K
LTCG: $65K - $30K = $35K
appreciate you breaking it down, but why do you subtract 30K twice? Its subtracted at basis of home sale and then again at LTCG?
what am i missing?
never fully understood depreciation and recapture, but this certainly helps
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 2:05 pm
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