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“James Hahn Rips New PGA Tour Plan And Says The Stars Are Being ‘Very Hypocritical’”

Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Maravich
Member since Mar 2014
2529 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:14 pm
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hate them,” Hahn said of the changes. "I’m gonna say exactly what 99.99 percent of fans said about players leaving for the LIV Tour. If our players just said, ‘We’re doing this for the money,’ I would have a lot more respect for them. But how they’re covering up what they’re doing and trying to make it a thing about sponsors and fans and saving opposite-field events. I think that’s all BS.


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We’ve been talking about money for the last two years and for them not to say that that’s not the No. 1 reason why they’re making these changes —it’s very, very hypocritical.”


Interesting take lol. Thoughts?

Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
2096 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:15 pm to
My thought is I don’t think he is lying.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
41531 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:16 pm to
Ask James which professional sport doesn’t make sure that the biggest stars make the most money.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24748 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:20 pm to
Hahn has played the victim card before. Play better.
Posted by Maravich
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:02 pm to
Agreed
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:23 pm to
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Hahn has played the victim card before. Play better.


Wait a minute. The guys that left for the LIV are bad guys for chasing money, but they guys on tour that endorse these elevated events because it gets them more money, are fine. And frick Hahn for pointing it out? Is that the position we are taking?
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
6824 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:23 pm to
Who?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:24 pm to
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Who?


You are posting on a golf board and don’t know who James Hahn is?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64600 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:34 pm to
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Ask James which professional sport doesn’t make sure that the biggest stars make the most money.


The individual sports. Everyone has the opportunity to win the same amount.

Until the PGA has now decided to kick out almost half a field to pay the stars all the money.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
2096 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:55 pm to
Will the 70 player no cut events get OWGR points?
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
41531 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:05 pm to
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The individual sports. Everyone has the opportunity to win the same amount.


Times are changing. Power has shifted from the owners/leagues to the players in almost every sport. The stars have the leverage and are taking advantage of it. Thanks to LIV, PGA Tour stars have found out they have the same kind of leverage.

I’m not saying it’s better or worse.
Posted by BlastOff
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2016
880 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:19 pm to
Yeah, felt bad for Chris Kirk when he walked away with only $1.5 mil for his Honda win.

And these damn stars like Kurt Kitayama winning all the money, ridiculous.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
22372 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:22 pm to
The people that run the PGA tour have handled this LIV mess terribly. They were used to being the only game in town for too long. Now they are having to react on the fly. They are making a mess of several events like Honda a couple weeks ago. They are basically creating a Korn Ferry tour within the PGA schedule.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
2459 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:52 pm to
My problem is them designating events to be more like LIV, but’s the reason people don’t watch LIV.

I have no interest and have never watched a no-cut event. Why would I want to watch that? It’s the equivalent to a preseason football game. There’s nothing that matters. No consequences. No drama. Not watching
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5292 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:56 am to
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I have no interest and have never watched a no-cut event.


So you never watched Tiger win at Firestone, the tour championship, the bmw championship, or the tournament of champions?
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3560 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:20 am to
Really enjoy the No Laying Up guys (travelogues mostly, they don't do Strapped anymore it seems), but the mental gymnastics they are performing related to the new plan and LIV are pretty annoying, especially Soly. He's such a shill.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13174 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:35 am to
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but the mental gymnastics they are performing related to the new plan and LIV are pretty annoying, especially Soly. He's such a shill.



I get annoyed how Soly and Dj are so quick to be insulting to LIV instead of just discussing the topic, but I don't think they're bending over backward here. They said they not the biggest fan of no cut, but they like how the PGA is making it more lucrative to a better golfer with an almost relegation system. You have to earn your way into these events. It's not an invitational that you can remain in. They were also pretty critical of the fact that no cuts will leave too many guys playing on the weekends.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 7:08 am
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13174 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:36 am to
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Power has shifted from the owners/leagues to the players in almost every sport.


The players are the owners of the PGA tour.
Posted by cptigger
Nola
Member since Jun 2005
1584 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:37 am to
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Really enjoy the No Laying Up guys (travelogues mostly, they don't do Strapped anymore it seems), but the mental gymnastics they are performing related to the new plan and LIV are pretty annoying, especially Soly. He's such a shill.


this 1000%. Been a huge NLU guy for a while now but have mostly given them up aside from the Trap Draw. But now they are even trying to ruin that with Neil and Cody being on there part of the time.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13174 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:44 am to
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Wait a minute. The guys that left for the LIV are bad guys for chasing money, but they guys on tour that endorse these elevated events because it gets them more money, are fine. And frick Hahn for pointing it out? Is that the position we are taking?


I wouldn't call the LIV guys bad guys, but I'd call Hahn out for this take. LIV is an invitational for 90% of the players. Hahn could qualify for these designated events in 24 if he finishes in the top 50 this year or qualifies through the non designated events next year. Unlike the PIP, which gives Hahn no chance to earn that money, this at least gives everyone something to aspire to. If you don't make top 50 the year before, go to the non designated events to earn your spot. There will be plenty of big name guys that didn't qualify the year before that will be in the lower events trying to get in the big ones.
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