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re: Derek Carr seeking $35M or more per year in free agent contract

Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:36 pm to
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First of all, the starting QB contracts should not be based on a population of all starters. Remove rookie contracts and it's a legitimate comparison (since Rookies don't get market rate due to CBA manipulation).


So now you are trying to move the goal posts to conform to your argument. Rookies are underpaid if they can start and perform. But they are still considered starters and their salary is taken into account in the rankings of salary. Some rookies are overpaid if taken high and turn out to be busts. It all averages out in the end.


This was cap charges for 2022. The 16th qb cap charge was around 12-13 million.
https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2022
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 3:43 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:02 am to
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So now you are trying to move the goal posts to

What? No. I never laid down any "goal posts". I'm critiquing your attempt at comparison as terrible and worthless to this discussion.

That criticism has remained consistent and logical. Nothing has changed in my argument.

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Rookies are underpaid if they can start and perform. But they are still considered starters and their salary is taken into account in the rankings of salary.

Yes and I said that's irrelevant to the discussion so those data points are worthless.

That would only be a good argument from a person arguing for a tank or constant churn of 1st round QBs (b/c their salaries are low). Nobody is making that argument, so the data doesn't belong in this discussion.

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This was cap charges for 2022.

Again, doesn't take into account the total cost.

Brady's hit in 2022 was about $12M.

His cap hit in 2023 is $35M

I"ll put it to you this way, the hit for 2023 averaged over his 3 years in Tampa Bay alone was almost $12M

This puts his 2022 cost at just under $24M, which is the number that should be used for this comparison.

*ETA: from what I can tell, it looks like Brady was paid $90M for the 3 years, so his actual average payment was $30M/year.

He signed a 2/50 with no restructuring then an extension that paid him $40M
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 7:06 am
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