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re: Disney's most putrid racialized and delusional piece of "entertainment" yet.

Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:12 pm to
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Come on, you know the market is way down in general, let's not act like it's just Disney.


Nice strawman, no one said it was the only stock that is down the S&P 500 is down roughly 20% from a year ago, Disney is down 50% that’s considerably worse than the broader market.

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But go back to the movie that really started Tigerdroppings to hate Disney, The Last Jedi. TLJ did 1.3 billion According to this board, that was going to be the downfall of Disney. What did TROS do? Over a billion. Six of their highest grossing films of all-time have come AFTER The Last Jedi.


I don’t think “what some posters on TD said” is a useful starting point. However, the SW prequels box office take dropped each movie and Solo was a flop. I realize some complaints about TLJ being woke are out there, I never agreed with take it was just a bad movie. I did go see Ep IX which was a jumbled mess just to see it thru. I’ve never seen Solo, the SW prequels made me realize back story’s are better left to the imagination.

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Wakanda Forever, did close to a billion and then became their most streamed movie ever for Disney+.


Wow most streamed movie in the whole what 2 years of the streaming service it was generally considered a disappointment box office wise from what I’ve read, probably because of Boseman’s death. I really don’t understand why they didn’t try to replace him.

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You have shows that this board hates that are all part of Disney setting itself on fire, Obi-Wan, Falcon and Winter Soldier, She-Hulk, etc., all did well.


You are judging things on what this board says and then if certain posters or YT commentators complain about it being “woke” then ignore any criticism of it. Most of those shows you listed are disappointments numbers wise. It’s literally going to be no one watching. Not Disney but look at Velma, people were touting “most watched HBO animated series, viewers up 127% for 2 episode or whatever but it’s getting completely trashed by critics not just “Maga” viewers.

There are definitely serious problems at Disney, denying that is just doing so because of who is saying it’s “setting itself on fire”. They have been putting out a lot of crap, some of it is over saturation some of it destroying beloved characters some is the “message” but in the end it’s boils down bad writing, bad production unoriginal stories.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34586 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:49 pm to
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I don’t think “what some posters on TD said” is a useful starting point.


Well kind of the point was to show that Tigerdroppings lives in a bubble. What is the popular opinion around here is not the general opinion in real life. Instead of some I guess I could have said the majority. Regardless if the two movies dropped in the box office, they still killed it at the box office. If TLJ and TROS aren't considered a financial success to you, then no Disney movie will be. I'm sure they are completely satisfied with how they did. Solo was marketed terribly but still made a profit, but yea, you're probably right, it was a flop. It was actually a decent movie imo.

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Wow most streamed movie in the whole what 2 years of the streaming service it was generally considered a disappointment box office wise from what I’ve read, probably because of Boseman’s death. I really don’t understand why they didn’t try to replace him.


Just ignore the 850 million part I think you read the wrong article. Made a ton of money, broke the November premiere record, broke streaming records and was nominated for a ton of awards (I'm not saying they were deserved, I didn't see it and don't plan on it). You cannot possibly say that is a disappointment. Especially not "generally considered." Disney was probably in there high fiving each other looking at the numbers.

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Most of those shows you listed are disappointments numbers wise. It’s literally going to be no one watching


I mean what is this based off of? Help me make sense of shows I listed making a lot of money and getting a lot of viewership is a disappointment. I mean what does it take for a movie to be considered a success? Seriously.

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Not Disney but look at Velma, people were touting “most watched HBO animated series, viewers up 127% for 2 episode or whatever but it’s getting completely trashed by critics not just “Maga” viewers.


I'm not arguing Velma. I know it sucked and the numbers are minimal because there isn't much animated stuff to compare it against at HBO so it's easy for them to make it look good. That is not the same with the movies and shows I'm talking about.

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They have been putting out a lot of crap, some of it is over saturation some of it destroying beloved characters some is the “message” but in the end it’s boils down bad writing, bad production unoriginal stories.


I know they put out a lot of crap. But part of my argument is they have stuff that financially more than make up for the crap they put out and that some of that stuff is not widely considered crap like it is on here.

I'm not some Disney defender fwiw. I was burned out on Marvel movies before Endgame and haven't seen quite a few of the MCU movies and don't plan on it. I'm not a big Star Wars fan and the only Star Wars Disney+ shows I've seen are Season 1 of Mandalorian and Obi-Wan. I don't plan on watching any of the others. The only reason I have a D+ subscription is because it's bundled with Hulu and ESPN+. But I'm not going to ignore solid numbers or complain about Disney being crap all the while keeping a subscription and supporting them and watching almost everything that comes out.
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