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Miles Out-coached...?

Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Pleasenewdc
Member since Oct 2008
1563 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:05 pm
...I THINK NOT!! He deserves a ton of credit. We are weakest at our MOST crucial position, QB, yet we had a great chance to win the game yesterday. He has done nothing but produce great winning seasons since he replaced Saban. We had to replace a lot of crucial positions, and if we win out and win our bowl game, that's at least 10 wins 4 seasons in a row for Miles and LSU. I will take that any day on our "down" year!

Kudos to Miles and his coaching staff, and I hope he's here a long time!
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:14 pm to
Miles didn't really make any questionable, game altering calls, Crowton is calling the offense and should be blamed for throwing it to much, and Lee should be blamed for throwing the ints. No where in the plyabook does it say "thow an int."
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
15420 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:16 pm to
Ya know, national media like to characterize Miles as a loose gambler with a bunch of luck. So you'd think, "Miles will make a crazy call that fails and causes LSU to lose the game."

That isn't his style. His risks are calculated and don't seem to be made under haste and desperation.

Tough season, but Miles is still our guy.
This post was edited on 11/9/08 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Tigah n T-town
Tuscaloosa AL
Member since Dec 2003
1196 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:16 pm to
If any thing applies here I think sometimes he may have overcoached. There were a couple of calls that were a little "too cute" where we should have just run the ball and punted.
Posted by cctigerphd
Member since Nov 2008
6 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:17 pm to
No, I wouldn't say Miles was out coached at all. Nick Saban barely left town with a victory. That's amazing.

The staff did make a few dumb calls. Run the option on 3rd and 1? And then punt on 4th and 2 at the Bama 35. Hell, we punted and they got it at the 15--next play they were back at the 35. I'd liked to have seen Miles take a chance there--I think it would have worked. This game was coached too conservatively.

And Gary Crowton needs to learn that he doesn't have a star QB out there. He likes the razzle-dazzle and cute plays. That's not going to work with Lee--or any other young QB for that matter. Use Charles Scott a lot and create opportunities for safe throws outside of the hash marks (Lee can't throw across his body). Keep it simple stupid!
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

Keep it simple stupid!


every tiger fan watching that game was thinking the same thing:

"what the HELL are you doing?"
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:24 pm to
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We are weakest at our MOST crucial position, QB,
The Brady Bashers will agree with me when I say that recruiting is part of coaching, and shame on Miles for not recruiting an adequate quarterback to play this year.

Miles was outcoached.
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5938 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:27 pm to
Miles got outsmarted. Any smart coach would have benched Lee's arse.
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

Miles for not recruiting an adequate quarterback to play this year.


Ryan Perrilloux #1 QB in America.

quote:

Miles was outcoached


You lost this argument badly on the Score Board. you'll lose it here too.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Ryan Perrilloux #1 QB in America.
RP doesn't play for LSU.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:37 pm to
No way Miles was outcoached. The coaching was dead even on both sides.

If anything, I thought he almost outcoached Saban considering the disadvantage at QB/offense LSU was playing with.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33259 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

You lost this argument badly on the Score Board. you'll lose it here too.
Not only did he lose it, but made an arse of himself doing so.
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:49 pm to
Not running option with JJ=Out coached
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:54 pm to
Bama was playing with 8 in the box with Lee @ QB. Bring JJ in and they probably put all 11 in the box.
Posted by lsusteven
Member since Dec 2006
485 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:55 pm to
If anything, Miles outcoached Saban.

Alabama was taken to overtime.

The only reason it got to overtime was two int's by a green QB and a missed fieldgoal by a normally automatic David.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46296 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 5:59 pm to
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xiv


quote:

Ryan Perrilloux #1 QB in America.


quote:

RP doesn't play for LSU.


BUT was he not recruited here and a player until just before the season? What a
Posted by crazycoonass2
south louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1086 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 6:02 pm to
the two plays i didnt like were in ot when we ran the wild tiger and then we threw it in double coverage in the endzone ,should have been a shorter pass or we could have ran in 3 plays in a row and if we dont get a first down we kick a FG and put the pressure on bama.but it is what it is and i will havt o dill with it.
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2007
3109 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 6:27 pm to
I don't think he was out-coached, he just let some pathetic plays go in.
quote:

The only reason it got to overtime was two int's by a green QB and a missed fieldgoal by a normally automatic David


He should have run up the middle to give Colt better field position instead of letting Lee throw.

As far as national media thinking he's not that smart....well maybe they think that because of the time out call after time had clicked down, THEN call a very questionalble challenge.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44852 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 6:32 pm to
Myles is a good coach, but Sabin seems better.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8798 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 6:38 pm to
With a senior quarterback against a redshirt freshman quarterback, Nick Saban needed four interceptions and overtime to get a victory. One of Alabama's TD's came off of a pick-six and another came off of a 15-yard drive set up by an interception. Miles wasn't outcouched at any point by Saban. The coaching staff's downfall is that Jordan Jefferson is not prepared to do anything on the field except handoff to Tulane nine games into the season.

If we had a servicable quarterback, we would have been up by at least seven at halftime (the pick-six tied the game right before the half) if not more.
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