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re: Update on Will Wade Sanctions - Won't Receive Show Cause

Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:11 pm to
The Dawkins tape was an anonymous source. You know why, the DOJ never released it. Instead it was leaked by Dawkins lawyers. Because it was leaked and not authenticated by the DOJ, it's anonymous.

My statement earlier in the thread was that he could potentially avoid violations, because all the NCAA had was anonymous sourced information. I’ve been saying this from day one.

If he avoids a show cause, then it’s safe to say that they did not prove any level one allegations against him.

Keep in mind this case was handled by the independent review panel. Not like the old days where it was handled in-house at the NCAA.

FYI. If they don’t follow their bylaws and sanction a coach or school in a way that blatantly ignores the bylaws and cost that coach/school income, they can be sued. The bylaws have a binding effect, just like a contract.

ETA. Love the downvotes. It’s easier than responding to someone who knows what they’re talking about.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 9:20 pm
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23749 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

My statement earlier in the thread was that he could potentially avoid violations, because all the NCAA had was anonymous sourced information. I’ve been saying this from day one.


You don’t know this for certain. No one does at this point.

A lot of basketball handlers and middle men who got tied up in the FBI’s case spilled the beans on a lot of people over the course of that investigation. It’s very possible the NCAA has sourced enough to get some direct statements on him. They don’t put out NOAs like they if they don’t have shite. Some may fall on appeal, but they know they will get some of it to stick.

That’s all it takes. My point was that they don’t need HARD evidence like a court. And they absolutely will play fast and loose and bend the rules when they have it in for a person or program, and they definitely have it in for Wade.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23749 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

FYI. If they don’t follow their bylaws and sanction a coach or school in a way that blatantly ignores the bylaws and cost that coach/school income, they can be sued. The bylaws have a binding effect, just like a contract.


Ok What program is going to do that?

I also follow Memphis basketball, so I have seen plenty of this same bullshite before. The NCAA has always had it in for Cal (and we all know why) but never could make anything stick to him, even at UMASS. They dug for a year at Memphis right before he left for UK and came up empty again. All they found that wound stick was and L2 over travel for Derrick Rose’s brother that wasn’t reimbursed and a couple of L3s.

But they could revisit Derrick Rose’s eligibility. They couldn’t make real allegations stick so they took all the wins and a tourney appearance with a run to the Championship Game that season out of spite. Cal was already gone, but that didn’t matter.

When the Memphis AD called the NCAA out for being petty and said the school would appeal, it was made clear that if he did that, the NCAA would come back and re-open their investigation until they found something else. The appeal was dropped.

So who wants to be the first school to file a lawsuit that could take a decade to see through and have to deal with the NCAA, who can openly threaten you anytime they feel like it, in the meantime?

Memphis did actually join the Wiseman family in suing the NCAA over his eligibility and even won a temporary injunction. Not quite the same a suing over major infractions or allegations, but they did stick a finger in the NCAA’s eye. There is still an NOA pending that the NCAA hit them with after that. It looks like most of it will come to nothing but self-imposed penalties, etc now, but without the lawsuit and playing Wiseman while the injunction held, those allegations and that NOA never happen.

Disgruntled coaches might sue the NCAA, but schools don’t because of shite like this.
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