I assume that you reference primarily immigrants, rather than their 2nd- or 3rd-generation descendants. Obviously, any answer will involve some level of generalization.

As a rule, they come from countries with a political spectrum at least a full standard deviation Leftward from the US political spectrum. For good or ill, government services that you or I see as unnecessary or as outside the proper scope of government, THEY see as entirely normal for a government to provide. They see opposition to those governmental roles as being (at best) odd or (at worst) fascist. At levels of taxation that you or I might see as confiscatory, they still think they are getting quite a bargain.

In my experience, the first generation thereafter tend to have politics much like their parents, while the second generation tend to start conforming to the American norm.

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Posted by High Desert

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Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:39 am to AggieHank86

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In my experience, the first generation thereafter tend to have politics much like their parents, while the second generation tend to start conforming to the American norm.

The reality is simple. The left's ENTIRE approach for basically 60 years now is, "if you aren't white, vote for us because we'll protect you from those terrible white people."

In most areas of the country, this works because non-whites are kinda grouped. Places with heavy Asian Populations have fewer Blacks, places with heavy hispanic populations have fewer blacks, and places with heavy black populations have fewer of the others. Thus, it's always whitey against the "other".

My experience with SouthWestern hispanics is similar to the OP. In nearly every way, they are closer to me politically than ANY liberal. Yet, they still tilt Dem. And I'm pretty far right! I submit that if I could somehow drop about 400K blacks from Georgia ghettos into the areas I live in, the hispancs here would suddenly become Republicans.

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Posted by tadman

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Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:19 am to AggieHank86

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For good or ill, government services that you or I see as unnecessary or as outside the proper scope of government, THEY see as entirely normal for a government to provide. They see opposition to those governmental roles as being (at best) odd or (at worst) fascist. At levels of taxation that you or I might see as confiscatory, they still think they are getting quite a bargain.

Hank is actually correct here. What we consider liberal is conservative in terms of fiscal realities and government services. For example, Indian National Railways employs thousands and thousands of people to make sure every little burg has trains and everybody in those little burgs has a job available. It loses more money in a year than many smaller country GDP's.

The only thing we do like that is the post office, and nobody likes the post office.

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In my experience, the first generation thereafter tend to have politics much like their parents, while the second generation tend to start conforming to the American norm.

I disagree with this. Most of my indian friends are college educated and living in upper middle class suburbs nowhere near "the consequences" of 40 years of liberal policy. As a result they still buy into the traditional liberal "we gotta help the poors" and "the poors are just as smart as white kids" propaganda.

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