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re: Pope (emeritus) Benedict has died

Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by Stitches
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:14 pm to
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Yeah, Christians rather than Jews, gnostics, or pagans.


Correct, and one only need read the church fathers to know which flavor of Christianity this is, and it definitely isn't Reformed Protestant or whatever you practice. You can say the reformers were returning the church to what the apostles and early church believed, but the Protestant beliefs are overwhelmingly absent in the church fathers writings.

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Big as day faith proclomations like you'd find in The Apostles' Creed. I'm an Apostles' Creed Christian. So are you. That makes us united in the one catholic faith


Again, when Ignatius used the word Catholic, he wasn't referring to the 20,000 Trinitarian denominations that wouldn't exist for another couple thousand years.

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Who adds to the Apostles' Creed? It's not the Protestants.


Well the Protestant churches and their beliefs pretty much didn't exist when the Apostles Creed was created, so I'm not sure what you mean by adding to it.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 10:22 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:37 pm to
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You can say the reformers were returning the church to what the apostles and early church believed, but the Protestant beliefs are overwhelmingly absent in the church fathers writings.
Such as?

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Again, when Ignatius used the word Catholic, he wasn't referring to the 20,000 Trinitarian denominations that wouldn't exist for another couple thousand years.

This makes no sense. He probably wouldn’t see us as any different than him based on the core beliefs that we cling to.

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Well the Protestant churches and their beliefs pretty much didn't exist when the Apostles Creed was created, so I'm not sure what you mean by adding to it.

There’s no way you missed my point here.
Catholicism and it’s monstrous catechism includes a billion additions to the simple faith of the apostles. Protestants don’t. Preaching and poverty was the rallying cry of the Waldensians and many other medieval reform movements. Why? Because of the terrible abuses of the church that bound the consciences of men.

Protestants preach truths that are consistent with apostolic Christianity where Rome adds and binds, adds and binds.

To the point that you can purchase an indulgence to lessen time of a loved one in purgatory. That’s in the Apostles’ Creed? That concept is in Christ's teachings?


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