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Is The Tiger "D" missing Pelini's "fire?

Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:43 pm
Posted by GA Tiger
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:43 pm
Just read an article on ESPN... didn't include the link... sorry... that said Pelini regrets his displaying his temper. Could it be that one reason the Defense is playing well is they don't have Pelini to light under a fire under them and no current assistant has replaced that?
Posted by ThePoo
Work
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:48 pm to
they didnt play that well under pelini to be honest

the D has several problems

#1 hey lack playmakers
#2 they lack leadership
#3 predictable defensive play calling on the line puts excessive burden on our already young and experienced secondary
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:50 pm to
they have playmakers, the other two I would agree with.
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Uncommon Cents
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Is The Tiger "D" missing Pelini's "fire?


Yes.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:51 pm to
Did Pelini's D play well against Kentucky and Arkansas last year?
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:54 pm to
Is The Tiger "D" missing Pelini's "fire?

Oh yeah , That fired up Pelini D gave up 50 in the FIRST HALF last week. That should alarm everyone ! Look what happens to this scheme without great talent.
We need a change ! Not Obama !
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:54 pm to
Pelini's D never stifled a good offense. They had some good games (Miami in '05, Tenn in '06, and VT in '07) but typically against no better than average offenses. I think the talent did more for Pelini than he did for it.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:54 pm to
Ok... are you referring to the theme of "Saban's boys are gone look what we have now?" regarding the d?
Posted by tjohn deaux
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:57 pm to
I don't think fire is the problem. They're missing direction. They're not sure how to correct the problems.
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:00 pm to
Ok... are you referring to the theme of "Saban's boys are gone look what we have now?" regarding the d?


No what I mean is Pelini 's D is getting smoked in Nebraska because the scheme stinks. Outstanding talent here masked some of those problems. We still have excellent talent but with just a slight falloff problems start popping up.
The players are fine. We need a change in DCO
Posted by maburu2
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Did Pelini's D play well against Kentucky and Arkansas last year?

Kentucky scored 27 points in regulation. We lost our best corner in that game.
Arkansas scored 28 points in regulation, only 7 at halftime. We also lost Beckwith and Dorsey later in the game.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:04 pm to
Kentucky and Arkansas were not Georgia or Florida. We have had injuries this year and every other year also. I don't disagree that our D sucks this year.
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 9:05 pm
Posted by maburu2
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

Kentucky and Arkansas were not Georgia or Florida.

Well then, Pelini gave up 24 points to Florida last year.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44716 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:12 pm to
Florida last year is not Florida this year. Florida had 4 losses last year. Also that one was in BR. Also our defensive talent was much better last year. Highsmith, Jackson, Zenon, Steltz >>>>>> DB's and LB's this year. And don't forget number of points given up by Lee. Those don't count against the D.
Posted by maburu2
Member since Mar 2008
4715 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:23 pm to
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Florida last year is not Florida this year. Florida had 4 losses last year. Also that one was in BR. Also our defensive talent was much better last year. Highsmith, Jackson, Zenon, Steltz >>>>>> DB's and LB's this year. And don't forget number of points given up by Lee. Those don't count against the D.

I know they're not like last year, but we're making every below average offense look all world this year. Georgia was a soft O, we just couldnt smash 'em in the mouth.
Posted by maburu2
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:27 pm to
And with regards to talent, we have lots of it. We just cant get our players to play up to their talents, which is very contradicting to what LSU's Ds have been all about. We developed players with average talents into all american studs.
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 9:28 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44716 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:33 pm to
Which average talents became All American studs?
Posted by LSUTigerz
Member since May 2008
984 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:39 pm to
You can't "play" for a coach when you have 2 to choose from. Ditch the "co" Def coord next year and get ONE good one.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20057 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

but we're making every below average offense look all world this year.


Yep - it seems as if almost every offense we play maxes out against us.
Posted by maburu2
Member since Mar 2008
4715 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:17 pm to
Craig Steltz, 4.6 speed, not a great range, average vertical, All American.
Ali Highsmith, undersized, 4.8 speed, nothing above average in his pro workouts, all American.
Chevis Jackson, a shutdown corner with 4.6 speed, that says it all. First team all SEC.
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