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re: Many Republicans just didn’t vote for the Republican candidates in Arizona
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:37 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:37 pm to David_DJS
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I've followed the election controversies. I live in Maricopa county. None of the arguments made so far for a "steal" stand up to base level scrutiny. I'm not suggesting there wasn't cheating - I hope there was because I don't want to believe what the alternative would mean. What I'm arguing is - nobody has provided evidence or even an argument that explains how the election was stolen, and I don't understand why that's the case two weeks after polls closed.
Ask yourself, what would you consider proof?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:47 pm to cssamerican
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Ask yourself, what would you consider proof?
Things like -
1. Proof that tens of thousands of voters were disenfranchised by being told to go to another voting center and then not being able to vote. This is a claim, but there's nothing out there that suggests it's accurate. KL's own lawyer said this happened to a few hundred voters - that they were given the option of going to another voting center, but when they got to the second center they were told they couldn't vote because they already had, having checked in at the first center. So the debate isn't whether this disenfranchised voters, it's whether it's a few hundred or tens of thousands.
2. Proof, as in a detailed accounting, of what tabulators malfunctioned and where, and was any voting center left with no working tabulators, or even just one. Each voting center had multiple tabulators.
3. An accounting of wait times. I have no doubt that there were onerous wait times at certain centers at certain times. That's pretty normal, especially when everyone gets off of work ... lines form. The worse I've experienced is about 90 minutes. Is that voter suppression? Is 2 hours? 3? At what point does a long wait become voter suppression? And how many voters encountered that sort of wait, and how many gave up?
4. Is there any evidence that any of the malfunctions, any of the chaos was by design rather than incompetence? There's nothing illegal about tabulators malfunctioning, but if they malfunction because they were set up to, those responsible should be in prison.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:49 pm
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