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To the "you do it in the Primary, Not the general" crowd!
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:07 am
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:07 am
We did that. And the then the GOPe pulled funding.
As Ted Cruz stated, "Masters stated he would not vote for Mitch and Mitch pulled money because Mitch is about Mitch, not the GOP and the voters".
It seems you want America First to play by a different set of rules. We won't. This is a war for control at this point.
As Ted Cruz stated, "Masters stated he would not vote for Mitch and Mitch pulled money because Mitch is about Mitch, not the GOP and the voters".
It seems you want America First to play by a different set of rules. We won't. This is a war for control at this point.
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:10 am to Jjdoc
Stop voting Republican
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:11 am to Jjdoc
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This is a war for control at this point.
The only way that war will be won by the right is if they learn how to exploit mail-in ballots to their favor. I fully expect them to get destroyed for 10 election cycles before they figure that out.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:13 am to Jjdoc
There have been several already exposing Mitch for protecting his leadership role at the cost of the senate.
Period, and hopefully he ends up losing it anyway.
Period, and hopefully he ends up losing it anyway.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:14 am to TDsngumbo
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The only way that war will be won by the right is if they learn how to exploit mail-in ballots to their favor.
Or, stop nominating candidates based on ideological purity tests, and nominate people that can actually win swing purple districts.
Nominating people like Mastriano, etc. for a seat in Alabama or South Dakota would not be a problem.
Who actually thinks that nominating someone like that in Pennsylvania will lead to an election victory? It is a different kind of Republican up there that you have to cater to.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:16 am to TDsngumbo
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I fully expect them to get destroyed for 10 election cycles before they figure that out.
Way too low.
We have technology illiterate deniers watching library parking lots for WiFi on election day FFS.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:17 am to Jjdoc
Dude, you are going to have a stroke if you don't calm down a little.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:17 am to Indefatigable
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Or, stop nominating candidates based on ideological purity tests, and nominate people that can actually win swing purple districts.
I disagree (if I'm understanding you correctly). Conservatives need to nominate conservatives who accurately represent our values and beliefs. If we just nominate "conservatives" who we feel simply fit the bill to be electable then we will continue to have a GOP filled with shitheads because they never were actual conservatives to begin with.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:17 am to Indefatigable
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Or, stop nominating candidates based on ideological purity tests, and nominate people that can actually win swing purple districts.
You are exactly what I stated in the OP.
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Who actually thinks that nominating someone like that in Pennsylvania will lead to an election victory?
As stated prior to the election in many many threads started, PA would be lost due to the flat out election fraud. They mailed out of 175K ballots illegally. The PA GOP pointed that out.
PA elected a walking dead man and an ACTUAL deadman and you think it's a candidate problem!
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:18 am to Jjdoc
JD Vance would have beaten Fetterman by 5 points
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:23 am to TDsngumbo
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Conservatives need to nominate conservatives who accurately represent our values and beliefs.
That's just it. Mastriano did not reflect the values and beliefs of Pennsylvania Republicans. He won on the back of a plurality election, spurred on by Trump's endorsement.
He was nominated because he paid fealty to Trump's message, not because the majority of Republican voters in Pennsylvania voted for him.
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If we just nominate "conservatives" who we feel simply fit the bill to be electable then we will continue to have a GOP filled with shitheads because they never were actual conservatives to begin with.
You will also continue to live in the minority in Congress. Successful politics requires pragmatism. Either live with more moderate Republicans in the North and Midwest, or never hold power again.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:24 am to TDsngumbo
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I disagree
Of course you do.
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Conservatives need to nominate conservatives who accurately represent our values and beliefs.
A "conservative" in the deep South is not the same as a "conservative" in the midwest or northeast.
One day you may understand this.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:25 am to Jjdoc
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PA elected a walking dead man and an ACTUAL deadman and you think it's a candidate problem!
I don't think its a direct candidate problem. I think it is a mindset problem amongst Trump and his most ardent supporters. His ego is getting in the way of success in this types of races. There is no appetite for hardcore MAGA agenda in PA.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:25 am to BuckyCheese
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A "conservative" in the deep South is not the same as a "conservative" in the midwest or northeast. One day you may understand this.
A nationalist is. See 2016 Trump.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:26 am to Indefatigable
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You will also continue to live in the minority in Congress. Successful politics requires pragmatism. Either live with more moderate Republicans in the North and Midwest, or never hold power again.
This
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:27 am to Indefatigable
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There is no appetite for hardcore MAGA agenda in PA.
2016 MAGA there absolutely is.
2020 absurd pro-black platinum plan, ivermectin, stolen election, dominion machine nonsense. No there isn't.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:28 am to BuckyCheese
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A "conservative" in the deep South is not the same as a "conservative" in the midwest or northeast.
Hold up.
Are you trying to tell me that Rick Gates or MT(G) wouldn't win WI-01 in a landslide?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:31 am to Bossier Ag
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2016 MAGA there absolutely is.
Correct, but I think that the three elections since have shown that route to victory as catching lightning in a bottle.
That will not work there again.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Are you trying to tell me that Rick Gates or MT(G) wouldn't win WI-01 in a landslide?
No, they'd lose by 12%, then Jjdoc would blame the RNC for not supporting them, and the others here will claim that the nominee was the clear choice for WI-1 Republicans in the primary when they won with 38% of the vote.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:33 am to Indefatigable
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Correct, but I think that the three elections since have shown that route to victory as catching lightning in a bottle. That will not work there again.
The GOP made sure to never allow that messaging again.
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