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re: Did out of bounds Bama player have to reestablish himself to become a legal participant

Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:43 am to
Posted by WillyLoman
On Island Time
Member since Dec 2007
1719 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:43 am to
No. The rule is stupid and was applied correctly.

Rule needs changed.
Posted by Tbone2
Member since Jun 2015
619 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:48 am to
Rule was correctly applied but the possession should have been reviewed. LSU had possession before the touch. If knee was down, play is over, LSU ball. If knee was not down, play was over when Alabama touched the ball, LSU ball. That call and the tipped pass is why CBK went for 2. In less than one game he saw the cheating and knew his only option at a win was to take it out of the refs hands.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
23190 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:49 am to
quote:

.. was applied correctly.

I disagree. The replay booth needed indisputable evidence that Brooks did not have possession to overturn the call on the field. Brooks had two hands on the ball with control. Per NCAA rules on possession:

quote:

Player Possession
The ball is in player possession when a player has the ball firmly in his grasp by holding or controlling it while contacting the ground inbounds.

Team Possession
The ball is in team possession:

During a loose ball if a player of that team last had player possession; or


Call on the field was LSU ball. Brooks had possession before the ball was touched by the out of bounds Bama player, thus call should have been dead ball with LSU possession.

There is no way the replay booth had indisputable video evidence that Brooks was NOT in possession.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
7295 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:58 am to
Yep.. What a stupid arse rule it is.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:11 am to
quote:

The rule is stupid and was applied correctly.


You and a lot of other smart football people have said that. But I'd like to look at the rule.

Do you have it?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19749 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

No. The rule is stupid and was applied correctly.

Rule needs changed.


I have combed the NCAA rule book and the specific situation is not addressed.

It is specifically stated that if the OOB player touches the unpossessed ball it is dead.

However if you rule that Brooks has the ball and is a runner because he is not down then he is not down and the play is still live. The OOB player touching him does not make him down. In this scenario the runner has fumbled and the ball is live and if the OOB player then touched it again the ball is LSU's
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