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re: Bear attack- kid jumps on back of bear to save friend
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:36 pm to TigerNAtux
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:36 pm to TigerNAtux
Anytime, brother. Just don’t run in to any bears.
The road between Gallatin Gateway and Big Sky is one of the most dangerous in the country. Be careful and keep your baby girl safe! Don’t let baws in big trucks make you feel like you’re going too slow.
The road between Gallatin Gateway and Big Sky is one of the most dangerous in the country. Be careful and keep your baby girl safe! Don’t let baws in big trucks make you feel like you’re going too slow.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:40 pm to lsu777
quote:
yanking’ the grizzly bear off
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:42 pm to TigerNAtux
Make sure you set aside a day to drive the entire Going-to-the-Sun road, and another day to hike in to Avalanche Lake. If you like hiking, the Highline trail is another must. See grizzlies, goats, and bighorn relatively often on that one.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:44 pm to NPComb
Holy shite. They are lucky.
quote:Were they in the woods unarmed?
When the grizzly ceased its attack Mr Cummings said he called out to his friend to see if he was alright, and the bear “circled around and got on me again.”
He tried to fight back but was overpowered. The bear eventually got off him and left, and he remained silent for several minutes. He was able to get up and rejoin his friends soon afterwards.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:49 pm to cajunangelle
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Were they in the woods unarmed?
They ought to have had bear spray. I know being armed sounds responsible, but unless you can unload a .45 (anything less bounces off their skulls - maybe a .40 could do the trick if you’re lucky) within a few yards in a few seconds with precision, you’re better off with spray, at least for grizzlies.
The best protection is NOISE. They avoid the shite out of that. Blast Led Zeppelin II and no bear will bother you. Kinda defeats the tranquility of the forest, but hey, no scary ursine interactions.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:49 pm to HempHead
quote:I have never been to Montana. On my bucket list.
On your way down 191 to Big Sky, stop at Dry Hills Distillery for some 100% Montana made booze, and then eat at Stacey’s for some fantastic steak and Rocky Mountain oysters.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:53 pm to HempHead
Thanks for the tips. But while I would love to crank Zeppelin. It would scare me shitless that I wouldn't HEAR them or other things coming.
Are there different tactics with a brown versus a black bear?
Are there different tactics with a brown versus a black bear?
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:56 pm to lsu777
Looks like the hero got the worst end of the deal. If I’m his buddy, he isn’t paying for any alcohol in my presence ever again.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:59 pm to cajunangelle
Just bring bear spray if there’s any chance of seeing a brown. Black bears won’t frick with you at all unless you somehow manage to get between them and their cubs.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:05 pm to lsu777
“.. after ‘yanking’ the grizzly bear off…”
That’s one way to try to save yourself or a friend, I guess.
Edit: Dammit, Tbone beat me to it.
That’s one way to try to save yourself or a friend, I guess.
Edit: Dammit, Tbone beat me to it.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:06 pm to HempHead
I had to click within this article to see more details & that they had bear spray & it looks like one gun amongst all of them.
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Erickson said Kendell Cummings and Brady Lowry were the two grapplers injured in the attack. Cummings is from Evanston, while Lowry is from Cedar City, Utah.
He said the injuries suffered were very serious in nature, but both are expected to live. Each wrestler has already received multiple surgeries.
“They’re alive and doing well, for what happened,” Erickson said.
Cummings, a sophomore, was immediately life-flighted to St. Vincent Healthcare in Billings, Montana, while Lowry, also a sophomore, was taken to Cody Regional Health by ambulance. Erickson said after a few hours at Cody Regional, Lowry was also life-flighted to Billings.
Attack Happened During Hike
Erickson said the incident happened while Cummings, Lowry and two other members of the wrestling team were horn hunting in the South Fork outside Cody. He said the foursome had traveled from the school in Powell after a practice.
As the four were hiking down the mountain, Erickson said the group became separated. Without warning, a grizzly jumped out and started attacking Cummings and Lowry.
Erickson said the bear went after Lowry first. That’s when Cummings rushed in and tried to pull the bear off of him. At that point, the bear started attacking Cummings.
Erickson said the attack likely happened in the late afternoon or early evening Saturday, and he received a call about it around 7:30 p.m.
Multiple people reported on social media seeing Park County Search and Rescue and other emergency staff responding to the incident.
Erickson said all four of the college athletes had bear spray with them, but the bear attacked before the pair could deploy their bear spray.
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How It Happened
Lowry, Cummings and teammates Orrin Jackson and August Harrison decided to head up to the South Fork outside Cody to go horn hunting after finishing a Saturday morning wrestling practice. They all brought bear spray, one firearm and experience in the backcountry.
Along with the five or six antlers they collected, Lowry said they also saw copious amounts of bear scat, but no bear.
“If you’re seeing bear tracks, bear tracks on the ground, probably turn around and walk the other way,” Lowry advised.
According to Wyoming Game and Fish, in the last few weeks there has been many reports of bear activity at low elevations throughout the South Fork and North Fork of the Shoshone River, Clarks Fork River and Greybull River drainages.
“In the vicinity where the attack occurred, reports from landowners and hunters indicate there may be six to 10 different bears moving between agricultural fields and low elevation slopes,” Dan Smith, Cody Region wildlife supervisor said in a Monday morning press release. “Game and Fish will continue to monitor bear activity in the area and work with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to make management decisions in the best interest of public safety.”
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:06 pm to cajunangelle
Go with a friend, wear a bear bell, and carry bear spray and a firearm.
I carry a Glock 20 loaded with these:
I carry a Glock 20 loaded with these:
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Thanks. Good gun suggestion but what to believe on the bear bell? I read the article I just posted above and the kid said that when he screamed to see if his friend was okay the bear returned.
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WHAT IS A BEAR BELL?
A bear bell is a small 1.5-inch bell with either a thick velcro strap or a carabiner used for attachment. You can attach it to the outside your backpack, waist belt or any other external piece of gear.
HOW ARE BEAR BELLS DESIGNED TO WORK?
Contrary to popular belief, bear bells are not meant to scare a bear. They are designed to warn a bear (and other animals - cougars, etc) of your presence, so you don't accidentally startle them. It's this surprise meeting between a hiker and a bear that can lead to a tense standoff or, potentially, an attack. As your body moves while hiking, the bell will inevitably jingle loud enough that anyone or anything in the immediate area can hear it.
DO BEAR BELLS ACTUALLY WORK?
People might be comforted by having a bear bell on their pack, but there are arguments made that challenge their effectiveness. Some say they do work; others say they don't work.
--Yes-they-do-work: Supporters of bear bells point to a 1982 study on bear and hiker interactions in Glacier National Park, which found that hikers who wore bear bells were less likely to be charged by a grizzly bear.
--No-they-don't-work: A more recent study by U.S. Geological Survey scientist, Tom Smith, suggests that bears in the wild ignore bear bells, treating them as they would a bird or some other background noise. Therefore, negating the entire purpose of carrying it all.
They-make-things-worse: If bears do hear the bells, some bear experts like Dr. Stephen Herrero believe the bear bells may actually attract bears who are curious about the strange jingling sound.
With conflicting results and opinions, we really don't know for sure if bear bells actually work or not.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:37 pm to cajunangelle
quote:
Thanks. Good gun suggestion but what to believe on the bear bell? I read the article I just posted above and the kid said that when he screamed to see if his friend was okay the bear returned.
Yeah, with a brown bear, you want to protect your neck and head best you can and try to stay flat on your belly. Unless, of course they don't stop the attack. Him screaming probably prolonged the attack. Not blaming him at all, of course.
Black bears...try to whip their arse.
The goal of the bear bell is to hopefully avoid surprising a brown bear. I don't agree about it attracting bears any more than anything else people do on the trails.
But, I haven't been attacked yet, so mostly going by what guides, rangers, etc. have said. I did get run off an elk by one once. That'll humble your arse real quick.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:38 pm to cajunangelle
Hence, hard rock. It has enough variation and harshness that they aren’t going to be terribly curious.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:39 pm to lsu777
I really clicked on this thinking it would be an OM/8T4 joke. Rather disappointed...
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:43 pm to lsu777
So badass
Spent some time this past June at Shoshone & Yellowstone (pre-flood). Beautiful country. Luckily the only bears we saw were from a distance.
Spent some time this past June at Shoshone & Yellowstone (pre-flood). Beautiful country. Luckily the only bears we saw were from a distance.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:45 pm to lsu777
Bear Bryant would be proud.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:00 am to lsu777
I would like to think that I would try to grab an attacking bear off a person if it happened in front of me. If it was a close family member like my kid I think I could sacrifice myself to get the bear’s attention on me. If it was a stranger, I’m not sure I would get to the point of sacrificing my life. If it were a friend, it would have to be a very close friend and I don’t have many of those.
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