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Muffed punt rule

Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:41 am
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3460 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:41 am
What is the rationale for the rule that you can’t advance a muffed punt? Why can you scoop and score a fumble but not a muffed punt?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:41 am to
I’m not sure the rationale but people seem to think it’s a new rule - for as long as I can remember you haven’t been able to advance a muffed punt or kickoff.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20137 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:42 am to
Same reason why if you hit someone to hard they throw you out of the game.

We have to make a violent, contact sport that has inherent risk perfectly safe without the possibility of injury.

When you put yourself in a position to accomplish the impossible you come up with dumbass rules that do nothing for the game.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177139 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:43 am to
People are dumb. If by like the 30s they mean new rule then yes.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10028 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:44 am to
Always surprises me when people think it's a new rule
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10613 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Why can you scoop and score a fumble but not a muffed punt?


You cannot advance a fumble if you are the offense and recover. You are the offense when you snap the ball for a punt.

Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3460 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:46 am to
Yeah….we’ve established it’s not a new rule. The question is….why is that the rule?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:46 am to
None of what you said has anything to do with a muffed punt. The rule has been around for as long as I can remember
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177139 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:47 am to
quote:

You cannot advance a fumble if you are the offense and recover. You are the offense when you snap the ball for a punt.

You can advance a fumble when it’s not 4th down. That rule has nothing do to with this anyways. You can punt on any down. If you punt on 3rd down you still can’t advance a muffed punt. You can advance a fumble on a punt. TM7 stripped the return man and scored against Oregon in 2011.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 10:00 am
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3460 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:47 am to
quote:

You cannot advance a fumble if you are the offense and recover. You are the offense when you snap the ball for a punt.


Thank you
Posted by IndianInBR
L'auberge
Member since Dec 2015
3272 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:48 am to
I think when you are punting, you are still the offense, so you cant advance a muffed punt but I may be wrong
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177139 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I think when you are punting, you are still the offense, so you cant advance a muffed punt but I may be wrong

It has nothing to do with being on offense. You’re not on offense any longer once the punter’s foot strikes the ball. Which is why after the ball is punted any penalty committed goes from the spot of the return and not from the original LOS.

It was a rule made 100 years ago to get people to try to return punts more frequently instead of letting them go to avoid giving up an easy scoop and score TD.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
11072 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:50 am to
They love rules. They love penalties. More penalties, longer game times, more commercials leads to more advertising dollars. It is all about money. I wonder if the refs are pressured to call a certain number per game?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34838 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:51 am to
It's been a rule longer than anyone posting on here has been alive.
Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1780 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:07 am to
In the old days a team couldn’t advance a fumble period, I wonder if this a remnant of this at rule.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34838 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:38 am to
quote:

quote:
I think when you are punting, you are still the offense, so you cant advance a muffed punt but I may be wrong

It has nothing to do with being on offense. You’re not on offense any longer once the punter’s foot strikes the ball. Which is why after the ball is punted any penalty committed goes from the spot of the return and not from the original LOS.


most of those foul enforcement exceptions are in place to limit "redoing" of kick plays.

It's really simple once the ball is kicked the team is K and k cannot advance a kick. A kick is a kick until it possessed.

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34838 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:39 am to
quote:

I wonder if the refs are pressured to call a certain number per game?
quite the opposite. Officials could call holding on every single play of every game.
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