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re: Ukraine Troops withdraw from Lysyschansk
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:17 pm to Bard
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:17 pm to Bard
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Meh. Much of the Donbas region is pro-Russian. This would be like California invading Washington from the sea and Washington ceding Seattle after months of fighting with little movement. The longer this war goes on, the more and more likely it becomes that Ukraine surrenders most (if not all) of that region.
I have a feeling that most of this could have been avoided if Zelensky ceded that territory to Russia, but his ego, along with the prospect billions of dollars in international aid and weapons, got in the way of his realistic logic.
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:22 pm to upgrayedd
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have a feeling that most of this could have been avoided if Zelensky ceded that territory to Russia, but his ego, along with the prospect billions of dollars in international aid and weapons, got in the way of his realistic logic.
How dare Ukraine not just cede the region to Russia. Corruption and ego are the only possible explanations for why Ukraine didn’t just give up one of its core economic regions.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:33 pm to upgrayedd
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I have a feeling that most of this could have been avoided if Zelensky ceded that territory to Russia, but his ego, along with the prospect billions of dollars in international aid and weapons, got in the way of his realistic logic.
Unlikely, Russia wanted Ukraine in it's Sphere of influence. They'd finally extracted most of their frontline troops and equipment from Syria and if you look at Putin's past moves (Transniestra, Chechyna, South Ossetia/Abkhazia, Donetsk and Luhansk, Crimea, Syria, etc..) He's pretty much had his core army involved to capacity since he came to power, trying to restore the Soviet Empire (He doesn't even hide the fact that he wants to restore it).
He needed a land corridor to Crimea and Transniestra, and figured he'd just walk into Kyiv and they'd fold like a tent (I think most ppl figured they would too).
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