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re: Will the DOJ Indict Trump soon?
Posted on 7/28/22 at 2:35 pm to Asusundevil23
Posted on 7/28/22 at 2:35 pm to Asusundevil23
YES - DOJ, FBI, CIA, IRA have been out in the open politicized since Obama.
Trump never had a chance taking on a completely corrupt mafia of political and government criminals.
Trump never had a chance taking on a completely corrupt mafia of political and government criminals.
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 3:21 am to CelticDog
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if for example jury in Atlanta finds Trump guilty of election interference and he's sentenced to a minimum for the crime with possibility of parole in 5 months they will indict before he is measured for his fulton county jail uniform.
How did Trump interfere with Georgia's elections?
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:46 am to Asusundevil23
What seems much more likely is that Garland will start on the outside and work his way in. By that I mean he will see if he can prosecute people in Trump’s inner circle who were part of the decision-making process leading up to Jan. 6. A trial featuring a senior staff member or two would help satisfy Democrats braying for blood.
Trying people around Trump would have several side benefits. For one thing, such a trial might yield evidence to use against Trump. It would also put pressure on Trump himself and increase Republican voter concern about backing a damaged candidate. GOP voters might well rally around a martyred Trump, but hardly any will care about a barely recognizable staffer. Even better, a trial might lead to a plea bargain. If there is one thing known about Trump, it’s that he rather casually throws people overboard. Should Trump leave a loyal staffer hang out to dry, that staffer might just agree to hang Trump.
Any trial or set of trials against Trump staffers would also chew up time for Garland — which would help with a Trump prosecution. If Garland is able to collect a strong enough case against Trump, he could well want to indict Trump into 2024. In the collision between demands for justice/getting Trump and the risk to the integrity of the American political system, getting even is likely to win out.
If Garland were to indict in early 2024, completing an actual trial before the November election would be quite unlikely, thus allowing Garland to escape the potential nightmare of a Trump acquittal. If Trump is not the Republican nominee — or if he loses in 2024 — a conviction or acquittal is almost immaterial. If Trump is convicted, any Republican President would at least strongly consider a Gerald Ford-style pardon (Trump is headed to prison if a Democrat wins).
If Trump is acquitted and a Democrat is president, Trump is likely still finished as he would be way past his political expiration date at age 82 in 2028. Even Trump would have a very hard time hanging on to relevance that far into the future. If a Republican wins in 2024, an acquitted Trump would be boxed out until 2032. An acquitted Trump would be a whole different kind of trouble for another Republican in the White House, but he won’t be back.
Republicans, Latino voters and an eye on Nevada
How an Afghan refugee’s experience can inform our support for Ukrainian refugees
For Democrats frothing for a Trump indictment, they may have to wait.
Unless Garland has an absolutely open-and-shut case — or he is ready to play with fire — the attorney general is likely to slow-play a Trump prosecution. But for those around Trump, I would suggest lawyering up.
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Trying people around Trump would have several side benefits. For one thing, such a trial might yield evidence to use against Trump. It would also put pressure on Trump himself and increase Republican voter concern about backing a damaged candidate. GOP voters might well rally around a martyred Trump, but hardly any will care about a barely recognizable staffer. Even better, a trial might lead to a plea bargain. If there is one thing known about Trump, it’s that he rather casually throws people overboard. Should Trump leave a loyal staffer hang out to dry, that staffer might just agree to hang Trump.
Any trial or set of trials against Trump staffers would also chew up time for Garland — which would help with a Trump prosecution. If Garland is able to collect a strong enough case against Trump, he could well want to indict Trump into 2024. In the collision between demands for justice/getting Trump and the risk to the integrity of the American political system, getting even is likely to win out.
If Garland were to indict in early 2024, completing an actual trial before the November election would be quite unlikely, thus allowing Garland to escape the potential nightmare of a Trump acquittal. If Trump is not the Republican nominee — or if he loses in 2024 — a conviction or acquittal is almost immaterial. If Trump is convicted, any Republican President would at least strongly consider a Gerald Ford-style pardon (Trump is headed to prison if a Democrat wins).
If Trump is acquitted and a Democrat is president, Trump is likely still finished as he would be way past his political expiration date at age 82 in 2028. Even Trump would have a very hard time hanging on to relevance that far into the future. If a Republican wins in 2024, an acquitted Trump would be boxed out until 2032. An acquitted Trump would be a whole different kind of trouble for another Republican in the White House, but he won’t be back.
Republicans, Latino voters and an eye on Nevada
How an Afghan refugee’s experience can inform our support for Ukrainian refugees
For Democrats frothing for a Trump indictment, they may have to wait.
Unless Garland has an absolutely open-and-shut case — or he is ready to play with fire — the attorney general is likely to slow-play a Trump prosecution. But for those around Trump, I would suggest lawyering up.
LINK /
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:51 am to Asusundevil23
What for? Pissng off the swamp?
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:53 am to Asusundevil23
The Great White Hope of the dem party is taking down the opposition.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:55 am to CelticDog
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Fulton county will indict him and guliani before Halloween. soon enough.
For asking Rattfricker to look for votes?
That's going to be a far faaar stretch.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:17 pm to loogaroo
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That's going to be a far faaar stretch
In a world where justice prevails you would be right.
But in this world?
A DC grand jury would indict Trump for breathing.
Any number of people would love to prosecute the case.
Any DC jury will convict him and any number of judges would send him to prison.
Don't doubt this for a second.
It will all happen or not happen based on what the Democrats feel is the best politics.
They may decide they want to run against Trump.
But if they decide they need Trump in prison, they will put him in there.
This is the real reason the Jan 6 prisoners are being held without bail. It's because if they bring the same charges against Trump they will try to keep him in prison as well without bail.
The establishment is not playing with Trump. They will put him in the ground before he's allowed to be President.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:27 pm to Asusundevil23
Yes.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:41 pm to Asusundevil23
...and Patriots will revolt! 
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:13 pm to basionok
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What seems much more likely is that Garland will start on the outside and work his way in. By that I mean he will see if he can prosecute people in Trump’s inner circle who were part of the decision-making process leading up to Jan. 6.
Name the crime and the elements. Then pick any of trumps inner circle and see if you can make it fit. You won’t be able to.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:57 am to BBONDS25
Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder:
"My guess is that by the end of this process, you’re going to see indictments involving high-level people in the White House, you’re going to see indictments against people outside the White House who were advising them with regard to the attempt to steal the election, and I think ultimately you’re probably going to see the president, former president of the United States indicted as well."
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"My guess is that by the end of this process, you’re going to see indictments involving high-level people in the White House, you’re going to see indictments against people outside the White House who were advising them with regard to the attempt to steal the election, and I think ultimately you’re probably going to see the president, former president of the United States indicted as well."
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:29 am to TrueTiger
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It's pretty clear now that their plan is to keep him under constant investigation and threat of indictment as a major obstacle to him seeking another term.
Doing a Benghazi, smart.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:31 am to basionok
if the left thought J6 was bad, I have a feeling putting Trump in cuffs would lead to worse. I can't see a world where the right would riot
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:41 am to basionok
Non responsive. Name the crime and the elements. The. Pick any of Trump’s inner circle and see if you can make it fit. You won’t be able to.
Holder wishcasting does not answer that question.
Holder wishcasting does not answer that question.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:04 am to Asusundevil23
At this point, what else is left to them.
It seems that the slimy, deceptive, unethical Bog is down to its last bloodless option if its dedicated crusade is to prevent him from even attempting to run again.
Coincidentally, just heard the first recorded political announcement from Dick Cheney himself extolling the virtues of his daughter.
After hearing that, how could anyone resist not voting for her.
It seems that the slimy, deceptive, unethical Bog is down to its last bloodless option if its dedicated crusade is to prevent him from even attempting to run again.
Coincidentally, just heard the first recorded political announcement from Dick Cheney himself extolling the virtues of his daughter.
After hearing that, how could anyone resist not voting for her.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 11:21 am
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:07 am to BaldEagleHey
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The J6 committee is political prosecution and nothing more.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:10 am to Asusundevil23
Right after they put Matt Gaetz in jail.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:15 am to memphisplaya
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Remember when a political person or governing official would pass taxes or laws that the public didn’t like and they would promptly… burn their house, business, and courthouse/church?
We need to return to those more civilized times
no one remembers that.
tell us what you did and which law was repealed?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:17 am to CelticDog
Otto, you always say you think he will be indicted in Georgia. I encourage you to read the entire transcript of the call between trump, his lawyers, and the Georgia sec of state. I read it last week, you can find it on CNN. There is NO WAY you can read the entire transcript and come away from it thinking Trump was doing anything nefarious at all.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:20 am to CelticDog
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Fulton county will indict him
^^---- This here folks is what a daily DU and Daily Kos Koolaid drinker looks like.
Can you tell us what happened to the SDNY slam dunk perp walk and conviction of Trump?
Sorry if that sends you scurrying to find your Lithium and Zoloft
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