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re: God is changing America aka Sodom and Gomorrah

Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:34 am to
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:34 am to
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God has seen enough. First Abortion


Ironically, that will be what ultimately ends this debate in America. Anti-abortion laws are inherently religious. The entire concept is based on the idea of the "soul" entering the body at conception.

People try to ignore that by making the heartbeat billboard material but any reasonable person knows that a heart doesn't make a person. A person can exist with an artifical heart, without a heart temporarily and with a transplant without a change to their "self" The actual determining force is your brain, which means that anything without the infrastructure to form memories and learn from experiences cannot be a person, because they don't have a self.

Abortion bans, being entirely reliant on the imaginary concept of a "soul", will eventually fall and the time it is going to take for that to happen is being accelerated by the overall decrease in religious participation in the country, thankfully.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15090 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:37 am to
Interesting.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58408 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:39 am to
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Anti-abortion laws are inherently religious. The entire concept is based on the idea of the "soul" entering the body at conception.


This isn’t true. Since the invention of equipment like 3d ultrasounds and the ability to deliver babies at younger stages of development, it’s scientifically clear that the baby in the womb is a separate and distinct life.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28671 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:40 am to
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Fells


I agree with all of that, but I do not think people are near ready to give up on religion whatsoever. So, hopefully the speed with which humans transition continues to be as slow as it has been.

In the end, what a free society decides is murder is what the real argument is about. It is murder to kill a human being that has a brain. When you kill a baby in utero that has pain or fear when it's happening, that is fking murder. Period.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:41 am
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