What cracks me up is we have a handful of Google Warriors who wouldn’t know DEF if you poured it over their heads trying to argue the benefits of it. Once even cited a “5% increase in fuel efficiency”.

I’ll let you testify, you know and work with DEF machines and/or trucks. You tell me. Is having these Tier-4 emissions systems and their 5% increase in fuel efficiency worth the added expense of (1) DEF (2) maintenance (3) repairs and (4) downtime? Or does factors 1-4 completely erase that 5% fuel efficiency?

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Posted by wadewilson

Member since Sep 2009

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Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:54 pm to Darth_Vader

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I’ll let you testify, you know and work with DEF machines and/or trucks. You tell me. Is having these Tier-4 emissions systems and their 5% increase in fuel efficiency worth the added expense of (1) DEF (2) maintenance (3) repairs and (4) downtime? Or does factors 1-4 completely erase that 5% fuel efficiency?

I'm not a mechanic, I just find out how much it costs us everytime something breaks. Earlier in the year I did an audit on how much we've dropped on our front end loaders over a 3 year period. I can tell you that if you added up just the costs of def-related parts, service calls, and rental fees in that time, we could have bought a refurbed loader, and we need something comparable to a 924, minimum.

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Posted by EarlyCuyler3

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Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:47 pm to Darth_Vader

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What cracks me up is we have a handful of Google Warriors who wouldn’t know DEF if you poured it over their heads trying to argue the benefits of it. Once even cited a “5% increase in fuel efficiency”.

My point was you made a blanket statement that was clearly wrong.

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