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This just continually gets repeated because Jay Johnson said it and because we were unable to develop a second a third starter.

Hilliard started SEC games every year of his career. He's not a friday night guy, but he's an SEC starter. He was 7-1 this year. He wins 10+ games if he's throwing on Saturday or Sunday.

We had several other arms on the staff with Friday night stuff, we just could not develop them into a Friday night starter for one reason or another. Floyd, Reyzelman, Gervase, and even Fontenot and Money have Friday night stuff. That's not considering the freshmen Taylor and Lansville.

Floyd started to come on at the end of the year and I think we'll have to rely on him to lock down a spot in the rotation next year if he doesnt leave.

Fontenot seems to have gone stagnant and did not progress much between last year and this year. Heading into the season, many hoped that the staff could develop him into a starter. That didn't happen.

Money looked great to start the year but fell off in a big way. Not sure what happened there.

Johnson/Kelly either valued Reyzelman and Gervase in the pen more than starting or could never feel comfortable extending them more than a few innings.

All this to say, we had arm talent on this team, we just couldn't find/develop two more consistent starters to go along with Hilliard.

God you're dumb as shite and insistent upon dying on this hill....

"yeah we had legitimate starters" then the bulk of your post goes on to explain that no we didn't really have any starters.

The only one that would qualify as a legit starter is Hilliard and as you said, he's not a friday night guy....but on this team he was. Why is that?

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Floyd, Reyzelman, Gervase, and even Fontenot and Money have Friday night stuff.

just being able to throw 90+ doesn't mean you have friday night stuff.

Let's let this staff get a class or two under its belt before we say they can't develop pitchers based on guys that were inherited or were transfers

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Posted by UpToPar

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Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:31 am to BilJ

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"yeah we had legitimate starters" then the bulk of your post goes on to explain that no we didn't really have any starters.

We had guys with potential to be legitimate starters. For one reason or another, they never quite got there. Maybe that's because they were not properly developed. Maybe that's because they just don't have it in them. We don't know that yet, but just as it's premature to question Kelly's development of our staff, it's also premature to give him a pass just because nobody on our staff developed into a legitimate starter.

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just being able to throw 90+ doesn't mean you have friday night stuff.

Sure, but it certainly helps and is something you can't teach. It also helps mask other areas that are lacking (ability to locate, off speed pitches, etc.).

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Let's let this staff get a class or two under its belt before we say they can't develop pitchers based on guys that were inherited or were transfers

Agreed. It's premature to say one way or the other. My only point is that if in two years we still can't develop some guys, nobody is going to say, "Man, we really didn't see that coming." Everyone will look back to this season and see that the red flags were there.

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