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re: Desertion and Suicide surging in the Navy

Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:37 am to
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
6192 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:37 am to
But we can still kick Russia and China's butts, at the same time, with one branch of the service tied behind our backs!

Right?
Posted by JinFL
Duuuval
Member since Oct 2004
3956 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:48 am to
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morale in general has gone down in general in the last couple of years


Biggest factor is who is in office. Former sailor here reporting in.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22549 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:56 am to
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I was talking to a pilot from VAW-117 a year or so ago. They had recently come back from deployment during COVID. They did a 10 month deployment, he said when they could port, all they could do was stand on the pier for a few hours and go back aboard. Anyone who has done a aircraft carrier deployment will tell you that is brutal. Not surprised first tour sailors want out after that crap.

"Liberty" on the pier would suck hard. I would rather have a steel beach picnic out to sea than pull in and be confined to the pier. As to the suicide and desertion thing, Navy life ain't for everyone. Combine that with the fragility of younger generations and that's what you get.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12929 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:57 am to
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So no one teaches them what this means in school... shite...at home for that matter.


They are used to wireless contracts. Another carrier will buy your current contract out if you switch now and then.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27407 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:11 am to
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But today's nonsense must be on another level altogether. DoD must be an absolute shithole of an organization these days.



I spent 87 through 2011 in... lot of changes in those years, mostly bad... I remember being young and sitting around listening to some of the "old timers" talking about things not being how they used to be and a young person thinking "how could this be any better"...

Naturally, I became one of those "old timers"... One of the changes that was not brought on by DoD directly was the changes in the generations... Certainly, a lot of the kids coming in toward the end of my retirement were smarter than I was but they were very soft and getting softer as the years progressed...

DoD enabled this softness by parring things back in much of the IET that toughened the kids up and made them appreciate what they went through... DoD enabled the crap we have today and when you throw in all the social engineering and experimentation they have subjected the services to, there really should be no surprise where we find ourselves today...

This certainly doesn't surprise me...
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18848 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:30 am to
Wow. The most woke branch has the lowest moral. Maybe catering to less than 5% of people makes that other 95% upset. Especially when the 5% are mental cases and freaks.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
13780 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:19 am to
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Also hard to have sympathy for people who “feel locked in” their enlistment contracts. That’s how it works



Kinda like student loans.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45261 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 11:23 am to
The biggest mistake Trump made during his presidency (besides not launching that midget Fauci to the sun) was not demanding the resignation of every military officer who was promoted under Obama. This should have been done within 24 hours of taking office. That communist shite needs to be purged from our military ASAP.
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