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re: The Scientific Establishment Is Finally Starting To Take Intelligent Design Seriously

Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:59 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:59 am to
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Is it possible to falsify the claim that all life on earth descended from the same single-celled organism


Sure, discover an organism without RNA or DNA as it’s base components. Or an organism that possesses DNA or RNA but that utilizes wholly unique mechanisms of replication.

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How does one falsify a historical claim that wasn't observed and can't be recreated?


Because it’s not a historical claim, it’s a scientific claim.

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the theory changes all the time to explain whatever we find.


This is incorrect, the foundational concepts remain unchanged. If they changed, it would no longer be evolutionary theory.

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Evolution is supposed to be gradual; no, wait, sometimes it's sudden. Well, it's both. Ever hear of "punctuated equilibrium?"


This has nothing to do with the base principles of evolutionary theory. If I paint my house over any time frame from 1 week to 10 years, at what point have I not in fact painted the house?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:42 am to
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Sure, discover an organism without RNA or DNA as it’s base components.


And the Theory of Evolution would just be tweaked to encompass the new mechanism. "All forms of life descended from 2, not 1 organism. Evolution!!!"

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Because it’s not a historical claim, it’s a scientific claim.



This is silly and Hankish. It's a claim about something that happened in history; call it what you want. We didn't observe it; one of the foundational principles of the scientific method. We can't recreate it; that's sort of another big one.


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This is incorrect, the foundational concepts remain unchanged. If they changed, it would no longer be evolutionary theory.


This is just false. Slow, gradual change over time WAS a foundational concept of evolution. When the fossil record didn't always support it just got amended. "Well, sometimes it's slow and gradual and sometimes it's not. It depends on what we find". No matter what physical evidence is found "evolution" just gets expanded to explain it. And there are plenty of scientists who don't believe in God any more than you do who've noticed how the game works and think it looks more like a religion than science.
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