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There is voluminous evidence of a massive Mesopotamian flood. The evidence is not just Biblical. It is physical and described in cuneiform records as well.

Sure, but the story makes no moral sense whatsoever if it were a regional flood. The writers of the story clearly believed in a global flood. And if that’s not the case, and it’s clearly not, what reason do I have to take anything else in there at face value? Especially when we know with a reasonable degree of historical certainty other things in there (the exodus account, the Roman census of the gospels, etc) did not and could not have happened as described as well? When we know the creation account couldn’t have happened?

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Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:39 am to Roger Klarvin

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Sure, but the story makes no moral sense whatsoever if it were a regional flood.

Well (a) you're entitled to your own "moral" conclusion, I guess. (b) Flood stories abound in nearly all protohistoric cultures, not just the Mesopotamian subsets. (c) It seems glacier derived inland lakes/seas released at various points resulting in prodigious flooding (GLOF) which would have devastated anything in the path. (d) Civilization in that timeframe often coalesced in low-lying areas abutting rivers/streams. So settlements would have been particularly vulnerable to GLOF disasters. (e) For any survivors, these catastrophes would seem like the end of the world.

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Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:05 am to Roger Klarvin

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Especially when we know with a reasonable degree of historical certainty other things in there (the exodus account, the Roman census of the gospels, etc) did not and could not have happened as described as well?

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When we know the creation account couldn’t have happened?

The Bible is loaded with allegory. e.g., Everyone knows mustard seeds don't grow to become huge trees. Farmers of the time would certainly have known that. But reference of "huge tree" in the parable as opposed to big plant provides the audience with clearer meaning. Similarly, the "days" of Genesis are of unspecified timeframes. What is it we know of for certainty is incorrect re: the exodus? Same for the census, it doesn't seem like a terribly important detail, why would it be exaggerated, embellished, invented?

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