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re: A Tolkien LOTR question- the battle of Gandalf and the Balrog

Posted on 4/28/22 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 2:44 pm to
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So I wonder, how does Gandalf/Olorin actually appear, during this fight? Still some wizened old man, or does he get to go as a mighty warrior?


I for some reason just assumed he changed after the defeat. He killed him still as the Grey and died in the process.

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Does he get to employ his full arsenal? I would think, yes


I guess my previous answer means no to this one. Gandalf the Grey isn't his full arsenal.

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What do y'all say?


I've also had the opinion that Gandalf the White could have taken Sauron even when he was at full strength

Gandalf defeated possibly (not possible to say for sure) the strongest Balrog who also used magic. Tuor was possibly the only one that defeated a Balrog and lived. And that's up for debate. I dont think Glorfindel defeated one on his own, I think he had help. Another opinion of mine in regards to Gandalf the White, a Maiar, was as strong as the Valar (or some of them).

And that at full strength, he could have defeated a full strength Sauron on his own. His fight verses the Balrog at probably half strength tells me he is a huge badass, much stronger than most view him because they don't consider what others who are considered more powerful than him weren't able to accomplish.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 6:18 pm to
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And that at full strength, he could have defeated a full strength Sauron on his own.


What would you say about Gandalf's response, when Gimli tells him that he thought Fangorn was dangerous?

"Dangerous!" cried Gandalf. "And so am I, very dangerous, more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord."
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