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Indoor Trainer - Cycling
Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:35 am
Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:35 am
Does anyone have one of the new "smart" indoor trainers for cycling? Care to comment?
I still have my old Tacx Flow that I purchased in 2012, but its just basically a 6 lb. flywheel and a stand. It also tops out at <750 watts max. The new "smart" trainers offer a lot more features and gamification, but at a significantly higher price point. I think I paid $250 for my old Tacx Flow, and the new ones I'm looking at are $700-$1.5k.
I'll visit Contender Bicycles this weekend to see what/if I can demo and get some recs if I can, but if you have any feedback I'd appreciate it. What I'm looking at based on nothing but internet videos and reviews:
- Wahoo KICKR
- Tacx NEO
- Tacx Flux
- Elite Suito
- Elite Direto
I still have my old Tacx Flow that I purchased in 2012, but its just basically a 6 lb. flywheel and a stand. It also tops out at <750 watts max. The new "smart" trainers offer a lot more features and gamification, but at a significantly higher price point. I think I paid $250 for my old Tacx Flow, and the new ones I'm looking at are $700-$1.5k.
I'll visit Contender Bicycles this weekend to see what/if I can demo and get some recs if I can, but if you have any feedback I'd appreciate it. What I'm looking at based on nothing but internet videos and reviews:
- Wahoo KICKR
- Tacx NEO
- Tacx Flux
- Elite Suito
- Elite Direto
Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:38 am to alpinetiger
I've been using a Kickr 3-4 times a week for the last 2+ years. I use it with Zwift. Never given me any problems. When it dies I'll get another one.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:23 am to alpinetiger
I got an Elite Direto when they were on sale for a few hundred off. Works great. Every now and then it'll give me connection trouble on starting up zwift but other than that it's been excellent.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 9:40 am to gmrkr5
quote:Thanks. It seems like to gold standard based on what I've read. How do you like Zwift? Wahoo has their own SYSTM offering that is the same $15 monthly cost as Zwift. I'm just curious why you didn't use SYSTM since it would be native with the Kickr. Thanks again.
I've been using a Kickr 3-4 times a week for the last 2+ years. I use it with Zwift. Never given me any problems. When it dies I'll get another one.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 10:14 am to Ingeniero
quote:Thanks. I read about one of the Tacx or Elite units that had this issue fairly frequently. The recommended fix was to shut-down all your other bluetooth stuff.
I got an Elite Direto when they were on sale for a few hundred off. Works great. Every now and then it'll give me connection trouble on starting up zwift but other than that it's been excellent.
Other than the connectivity I assume you like Zwift as well?
Posted on 4/1/22 at 11:48 am to alpinetiger
If you really want to get fit (assuming you have limited time) a smart trainer is required. I do interval work with trainerroad and zwift for racing. I think my ftp when I first started using the trainer was around 240 putting me at 3.8 w/kg. Now I’m at 4.45 w/kg using both.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 1:10 pm to crazyLSUstudent
quote:I have unlimited time. I've done this all this before, just not with a smart trainer. From '04 to '13 I competed in races and also did weekly summer crits in SLC and Boise. The last four years as a CAT5 & CAT4. I originally had rollers, then I purchased the Tacx Flow I mentioned. Then I lost interest in cycling and began trail running, so I'm still in good shape just not like I was when cycling. Now I'm starting to go on rides again.
If you really want to get fit (assuming you have limited time) a smart trainer is required. I do interval work with trainerroad and zwift for racing. I think my ftp when I first started using the trainer was around 240 putting me at 3.8 w/kg. Now I’m at 4.45 w/kg using both.
You can do intervals, sprints, hill repeats, etc.. on my 2012 Tacx Flow, but none of it is gamified and interactive. I used to do my winter training with a set-of DVD's and a 27" TV.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 1:25 pm to alpinetiger
Racing is fun and hard. All of my power PRs are from zwift
Posted on 4/1/22 at 1:37 pm to alpinetiger
quote:
Thanks. It seems like to gold standard based on what I've read. How do you like Zwift? Wahoo has their own SYSTM offering that is the same $15 monthly cost as Zwift. I'm just curious why you didn't use SYSTM since it would be native with the Kickr. Thanks again.
Zwift works as intended for me. It's a tool. I use it for intervals 95% of the time and will do a race if I can't bring myself to do regular 'ol intervals. I'm not familiar with SYSTM but considering how I use Zwift, it would probably suffice as well.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:01 pm to alpinetiger
I have been using a second generation Wahoo Kickr since 2017 with little to no issues. The 2018 version had issues but I believe Wahoo has sorted those problems out with the current generation of Kickrs.
I pair my Kickr with Zwift running on an ATV 4k. I honestly have experienced only a single power dropout in 3+ years.
Most of my riding is/has been group rides and structured work outs. I am just now beginning to drip my toes into racing with the Thursday WTRL Team TTs with DIRTy Wattz.
In the past Wahoo has offered deals with refurbished units. Look into a refurbished unit if you are trying to keep costs to a minimum.
I pair my Kickr with Zwift running on an ATV 4k. I honestly have experienced only a single power dropout in 3+ years.
Most of my riding is/has been group rides and structured work outs. I am just now beginning to drip my toes into racing with the Thursday WTRL Team TTs with DIRTy Wattz.
In the past Wahoo has offered deals with refurbished units. Look into a refurbished unit if you are trying to keep costs to a minimum.
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:44 pm to NEWMANIUM
Been using a Cyclops Hammer for three winters now. Rock solid, awesome for interval workouts with no fluctuations. A little noisy, but I’ve heard the third generation is much quieter. A little less expensive than the Kickr.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 12:43 am to alpinetiger
Anyone used the kickr rollr? It looks like a better option for me since I hate having to bust the bike down to mount it and really prefer outdoor riding. I’m scared from the old dual rollers but this looks like a solid option.
Posted on 4/3/22 at 6:26 am to billjamin
I saw one setup at a race at the wahoo tent recently. Looks cool but read some reviews. Can’t remember exactly what the complaints were, but there were some
Posted on 4/5/22 at 3:15 pm to alpinetiger
Not that anyone cares but I purchased the Wahoo Kickr.
I have Campy Record components on my bike so I was going to purchase the Tacx set-up because Campy is supported out of the box, but Wahoo has a new spacer insert for Campy components.
I have Campy Record components on my bike so I was going to purchase the Tacx set-up because Campy is supported out of the box, but Wahoo has a new spacer insert for Campy components.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 6:22 pm to alpinetiger
Excellent choice. You're going to enjoy it. You decide if you're gonna ride Zwift with it?
Posted on 4/6/22 at 9:05 am to alpinetiger
Another Wahoo Kickr and Zwift user here although I’ve been riding more FulGaz over the last 2 weeks. FulGaz is buggy but kind of neat riding real routes. I understand Rouvy is similar so I may try it soon.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:48 am to Ingeniero
quote:Yes, absolutely.
Zwift
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:57 am to alpinetiger
Hi, I am newbie here,
One of the best option to get fit that is cycling
One of the best option to get fit that is cycling
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