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Tucker Carlson Says Ukraine Isn’t Important. These Key GOP Voters Beg to Differ.

Posted on 2/26/22 at 4:54 am
Posted by arp0925
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 4:54 am
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Ukrainian Americans are an important bloc of voters in Ohio, whose Senate race this year could help decide which party controls the chamber.


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But isolationist strains in the GOP have rattled some in the community. In 2020, Donald Trump won the heavily Ukrainian Cleveland suburb of Parma — despite his rhetorical resistance to U.S. interventionism and skepticism toward NATO, local Ukrainians point out that he did more than the Obama administration in aiding their ancestral country with lethal weapons against Russian aggression. But other Cleveland-area Ukrainian Republicans publicly backed President Joe Biden.


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“Isolationism absolutely, absolutely is not something the community grasps or will ever support,” Futey says.


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If the Senate choice is between an engagement-oriented Democrat like Rep. Tim Ryan, who has called for sending Ohio-built tanks to Poland to deter Russia, or a Tucker Carlson-style Republican like Mandel, Marko doesn’t know whom he will pick. He regularly watches Carlson’s show, on which the host has declared Ukraine “strategically irrelevant to the United States,” questioned why the United States should side with Ukraine over Russia, and wondered “why the emphasis [in Washington] on Ukraine’s borders and not ours?” Marko says this kind of rhetoric has “gotten his nerves going a little bit,” and that he’s seen Republican friends condemn it on Facebook.


Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 4:56 am to
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Ukrainian Americans are an important bloc of voters in Ohio


Sorry but not really

What is that a couple hundred people out of 12 million
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 4:58 am to
Yeah who cares about our own borders. Ukraine First!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135367 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 5:05 am to
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Tucker Carlson Says Ukraine Isn’t Important. These Key GOP Voters Beg to Differ.
So the implication is: Obama gave up Crimea; Biden gave up the rest of Ukraine; but Tucker is who voters will hold to account? Does that about sum up the Politico bent?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 5:08 am to
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Isolationism absolutely, absolutely is not something the community grasps or will ever support
Too bad, if Ukraine had been more isolationist maybe this wouldn't have happened. It's definitely a shame Russia wasn't isolationist. Is isolationist a new slur? It's be great to see the Google trend since the war began. Suddenly the establishment is railing against "isolationism" everywhere. If isolationism is bad, what's the alternative to isolation? Intervention of course. War. You're clamoring for war. We are isolationists. You are warmongers. We will just accept both labels and call it fair. But warmongers is really more fair.
Posted by arp0925
Member since Nov 2016
1323 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 5:25 am to
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Too bad, if Ukraine had been more isolationist maybe this wouldn't have happened. It's definitely a shame Russia wasn't isolationist. Is isolationist a new slur? It's be great to see the Google trend since the war began. Suddenly the establishment is railing against "isolationism" everywhere. If isolationism is bad, what's the alternative to isolation? Intervention of course. War. You're clamoring for war. We are isolationists. You are warmongers. We will just accept both labels and call it fair. But warmongers is really more fair.


Not sure if this was directed at me or to the person who said the quote you were referring to in the post.

My take is people shift from an isolationist to an interventionist position based on the situation. I am willing to bet many Ukrainian Americans would have shared your isolationist position if instead of Russia and Ukraine this was about let’s say India and Pakistan/ China. But this being about their native homeland, they will for sure want their current country (America) to help in whatever way they can. I think this is true with most groups of Americans who share some kinship with the old world.

Article is interesting because Ukrainian Americans per the article are your typical Reagan republicans who were/are more interventionist which is very different from Trump Republicans who lean more towards being isolationist. Not to say most in this group didn’t vote for Trump, they did. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in Ohio if it is a factor at all.
Posted by Mr Cell Phone
Member since Nov 2021
1266 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:06 am to
Tucker Carlson is a step above professional Wrestling as a commentator a real joke.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4915 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:17 am to
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Tucker Carlson is a step above professional Wrestling as a commentator a real joke.



Just curious who do you think is above Tucker? Morning Joe? Don Lemon? Rachael Maddow? Joy Reid?
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:28 am to
Vendman is a Ukranian, he hates Trump

let's get his opinion too
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
21959 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:46 am to
Joe Biden isn’t helping them so wtf does Tucker have to do with it?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52785 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:47 am to
Lol so they are gonna vote for the party that got then invaded??????

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125051 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:45 am to
We should definitely go to war to shore up the Ukrainian GOP base in Ohio. Thanks, Kathy.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125051 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:46 am to
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Article is interesting because Ukrainian Americans per the article are your typical Reagan republicans who were/are more interventionist which is very different from Trump Republicans who lean more towards being isolationist.


You’re misunderstanding what’s happening.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:48 am to
Is Tucker Carlson running in Ohio? Who gives a frick? Why are the leftists and RINOs so scared of Tucker? It’s kind of crazy how much they are terrified of Tucker’s honesty.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26008 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:49 am to
Ohio is trending massively red and Trump dominated that state 2 election cycles in a row. I think the GOP senate candidate can afford to lose a few Ukranians who are stupid enough to buy the narrative that democrats are best for Ukraine.
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:50 am to
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Yeah who cares about our own borders. Ukraine First!



So Mexicans are invading like the Russians are?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125051 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:51 am to
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So Mexicans are invading like the Russians are?


No. The Mexican invasion is more expensive.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138040 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:51 am to
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We should definitely go to war to shore up the Ukrainian GOP base in Ohio. Thanks, Kathy.

808 pretty much always gets it
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45972 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:54 am to
We need to go and die for Ukraine but we can’t defend our own borders?

GFY
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4913 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:10 am to
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Just curious who do you think is above Tucker? Morning Joe? Don Lemon? Rachael Maddow? Joy Reid?

It is a guaranteed fact that it will not respond to this question.
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