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re: No, we should not send our military to Ukraine. But can we speak the truth?

Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 1:45 pm to
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So to recap the Trump supporter position here:

1. Russia is doing this because Biden is weak and they don’t fear a response from him

2. They didn’t do this to Trump because he is strong and at least theoretically they fear what he might do in retribution

3. Defending Ukraine is a waste of American lives and treasure

4. Trump was the first non interventionist President and would never fight for Ukraine because of #3 above

5. Biden is a war mongering globalist who wants to expend American lives and treasure in Ukraine

Is this about correct? Putin feared something Trump is way too smart to do, doesn’t fear something Biden is too weak to do?


What this misses, and what Putin knows, is that Trump is not resolute on anything but himself. Trump has no ideology other than Trump, and like Putin, that makes him rather dangerous and prone to disregarding the conventional wisdom and conventional rules.

Trump loyalists won't admit that because it requires them to acknowledge Trump is only patriotic in the sense that he conflates the USA with Donald Trump, but it's essential to understanding the manner in which Trump was able to avoid testing of the type Biden has seen.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164354 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 2:40 pm to
The US blew a bunch of Russians off the face of the earth in Syria in 2018 and Russia did all they could to sweep it under the rug. Russia didn't want these hands from 2017-2020.
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