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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:56 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:56 pm to GOP_Tiger
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if he'd provided ATACMS and cluster munitions to Ukraine
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If Ukraine were already flying F-16s
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All the delay just accentuates the perception of Biden as weak
Not to defend him at all, but with the lunatics he has in his administration who knows what kind of advice he is getting from the supposed "experts" in their respective areas. Biden has been very progressive for someone who was a milquetoast moderate dem for decades, which should tell you that there are others around him actually steering the ship.
Maybe there is a gap between Washington and Kiev in terms of communicating tactics and needs on the battlefield?
If you're more cynical, maybe we are just grinding Russia down and using Ukraine to do it.
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:01 pm to VolSquatch
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Maybe there is a gap between Washington and Kiev in terms of communicating tactics and needs on the battlefield?
According to my buddy - an ex-Marine who served in Afghanistan who volunteered in the Ukrainian Army and just got back in September - "we don't understand what's going on... when the Ukrainians listen to our military people they get fricked up. We don't understand the Russians... this is some ancient grudge shite going on... this isn't polite warfare and we insist on keeping the gloves on. The loser goes extinct."
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:13 pm to VolSquatch
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If you're more cynical, maybe we are just grinding Russia down and using Ukraine to do it.
I'd say this is pretty much the official stance from the collective West... or "managing the long-term defeat of Russia" as I've seen it called...
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:54 pm to VolSquatch
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Maybe there is a gap between Washington and Kiev in terms of communicating tactics and needs on the battlefield?
According to my cousin who worked on the recent house bill, Kyiv has sent a very detailed list of what it needs. The list includes realistic things like more HAWK missiles, more Abrams tanks, etc. It also included things it can’t realistically hope to operate in the near or semi near future like Apache helicopters, and includes things that we don’t export like A10s. Ukraine has told us what they need to win as well as what they would like to have. The problem is all in the Biden administration. They don’t want to escalate the war prior to the election.
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