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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:52 am to
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:52 am to
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Hogwash, but then again maybe you aren’t old enough to remember Vietnam.


Born in the 80's but I'm quite familiar with Vietnam. There was a massive resistance in the United States to both the Vietnam War and the Second Iraq War. The media is in the tank for this conflict and detractors to U.S./NATO support are befuddlingly dismissed as "Pro-Putin" or "Russian agents" even though the accusations are quite illogical. The our state and intelligence narratives are pushed uncritically by the media apparatus.

And I think it's safe to say that the notion that Putin has the aspirations of an Adolf Hitler is quite a bit different than how Ho Chi Minh and Saddam Hussein were viewed/portrayed in respect to how necessary our intervention was.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36525 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:00 am to
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Born in the 80's but I'm quite familiar with Vietnam. There was a massive resistance in the United States to both the Vietnam War and the Second Iraq War


In Vietnam we had boots in the ground for over five years before the anti war movement picked up steam.

There wasn’t near the outage for Iraq 2 as there was for Vietnam.

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And I think it's safe to say that the notion that Putin has the aspirations of an Adolf Hitler is quite a bit different than how Ho Chi Minh and Saddam Hussein were viewed/portrayed in respect to how necessary our intervention was.


Putin like Hitler believes the opposition nations are weak and will fold. Putin like Hitler negotiates in bad faith. Putin like Hitler murders his political enemies.



Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13669 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:55 pm to

BBC reporting out of kyiv today, sounds like the citizens are fed up. No power, water, shops closed, subway running sparingly. About 20% of the population has already left the country, most of the middle and upper class. Couple the latest assaults on the power grid with the lowering of the draft age to send more ukranians to their death.....expect the exodus to continue.

By the time ilt ends they may have half the population they had when they got their independence back in 91. And those left will be poor, uneducated, maimed, with a country destroyed and full of mines.

Dont worry zelensky will be in milan, miami or monaco courtesy of the US taxpayer.

zelensky and hamas both getting filthy rich, they just have to keep ensuring their own people are slaughtered. .
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