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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:03 pm to
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As the Arsenal of Democracy, our production ability is shameful. How technically difficult is it to make a standard shell?


With our modern military and the way WE would fight a war ourselves, are shells really something that should matter much to us? I wouldn’t think we would use many.
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19551 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:19 am to
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With our modern military and the way WE would fight a war ourselves, are shells really something that should matter much to us? I wouldn’t think we would use many.


I think our gamble on fewer more mobile units with precision fires was wrong

GPS guided munitions are great, but you still need mass.

We should also think about what happens if your enemy can jam your PGMs. We haven’t done that.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 7:23 am
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6897 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:48 am to
There is a very old saying that artillery is the king of the battle field. That hasn't changed.

What has changed is two fold:
1) The US has allowed its manufacturing base to atrophy to the point where it is not capable of supporting sustained combat operations. During WW2, there were countless examples of factories retooling to pump out war materials. Those factories are all sitting overseas today.

All you have to do is get off the interstate and drive through the towns to see the remains of shut down manufacturing facilities.

2) The complexity of modern weapon systems makes replacing combat losses much more expensive and time-consuming. Even if we had the manufacturing base to convert to war time production, it would take years to bring it online...just what we're seeing with the attempts to ramp up artillery shell production.

In my opinion, the lack of suitable manufacturing capabilities is our biggest strategic risk today.


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