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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:13 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:13 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Ukraine has no chance of getting anything without a significant victory. And European countries will do the same.
What's next in the hypothetical that Ukraine doesn't secure any significant success with their new toys they're amassing now? Does the west just stop all aid except maybe some small arms and ammo? Do all the NATO countries just start mobilizing for the eventual shooting war with Russia and start transitioning to a wartime economy and build up massive surpluses? Because if the flow of weapons that gives UA the tech advantage stops, Russia will eventually roll over the entire country and Poland is gonna get extremely antsy with Ruskies at the border.
Crazy Europe-wide hypothetical with a lot riding on Ukraine being able to perform with our equipment this spring and summer...and perform well.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:17 pm to IAmNERD
Everything the Russians have dumb is stupid, except…
Clearing out their prisoner trash. Would be awesome if we could somehow just get rid of a hundred thousand pieces of human trash wasting our tax dollars in jail
Clearing out their prisoner trash. Would be awesome if we could somehow just get rid of a hundred thousand pieces of human trash wasting our tax dollars in jail
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:20 pm to IAmNERD
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build up massive surpluses
This is going to happen over the next decade or longer regardless of what happens the next few months. This war showed that most if not all countries are woefully understocked for any kind of drawn out conflict
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:08 pm to IAmNERD
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What's next in the hypothetical that Ukraine doesn't secure any significant success with their new toys they're amassing now? Does the west just stop all aid except maybe some small arms and ammo? Do all the NATO countries just start mobilizing for the eventual shooting war with Russia and start transitioning to a wartime economy and build up massive surpluses? Because if the flow of weapons that gives UA the tech advantage stops, Russia will eventually roll over the entire country and Poland is gonna get extremely antsy with Ruskies at the border.
Crazy Europe-wide hypothetical with a lot riding on Ukraine being able to perform with our equipment this spring and summer...and perform well.
If Ukraine's spring offensive is unsuccessful, then I think that a lot of aid eventually dries up -- not completely, though, because in that situation, Ukraine still becomes the place that helps contain Russian aggression in the long term.
But I think that Macron, Scholz, and company start ratcheting up the pressure for Ukraine to make a deal. Congress says no more money. And Zelensky decides to start negotiating.
That's what I think. I don't think that Russia rolls over anyone, though. By the end of this summer, it's conventional military strength will be less than a third of what it was 14 months ago. They have lost so much equipment, experienced soldiers, etc. -- and they'll have no money to rebuild, as Russia will be broke for a decade.
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