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re: Explosion at Marathon in Garyville
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:52 am to jerd
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:52 am to jerd
quote:
So when you loose the older operators you loose a lot of knowledge.
Old operators don’t give a shite about training young guys. Sit in their retirement home unit, and talk about how clueless new operators are. Every plant, same scenario.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:22 am to DuckManiak
Any OTers inside or nearby? Fire still active or contained?
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:05 pm to DuckManiak
quote:Perhaps this is your professional opinion based on scientific data BUT as a now retired plant shift supervisor with 33 total years experience what I EXPERIENCED was exactly the opposite. As my years passed by I found the younger incoming operators cared less and less about my info.
Old operators don’t give a shite about training young guys. Sit in their retirement home unit, and talk about how clueless new operators are. Every plant, same scenario.
I started that unit up as did my co-workers. I heard the same from them as time passed. I have no idea what generation they were. It didn't change over night from one to another. It just seemed to flow slowly in that direction.
Then we got a punkass superintendent that ran a large chunk of us startup operators off over a 2 year period of time. Wanna know what happened next?
They started calling some of us back on contract to work while they could get the new guys trained. Yeah, the clueless ones.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:55 pm to DuckManiak
Old operators have lost the incentive to beat the new ones out of a chair to make them learn something, is what I think you meant. Upper management has become so clueless as to real world operation they have no teeth to demand knowledge that they themselves don’t have and no spine to discipline laziness because of politics. I’m glad my tour of duty is near the end, my patience for stupidity above and below is at a career low
Glad nobody was hurt
Glad nobody was hurt
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:21 pm to DuckManiak
quote:Pretty much my experience as well. Or maybe it's not that they don't want to train. It's that they get frustrated that a person with five years' experience doesn't have the same knowledge that a person with 30 years has. So that person is called stupid, worthless, etc. You learn to blow the old farts like that off. But you pretty much nailed it though with that statement.
Old operators don’t give a shite about training young guys. Sit in their retirement home unit, and talk about how clueless new operators are. Every plant, same scenario.
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